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Title: Next Expansion?
Post by: Zuberi on February 07, 2017, 04:21:33 PM
Thought I'd cross post this from boardgamegeek. Some stores have apparently started allowing preorders for Mage Wars Academy: Warlord, and there's supposed to be another Academy expansion this year in addition to the Warlord. Think they'll be releasing Forcemaster alongside the Warlord like they did with Arena, or do you think they'll do something different? What do you think we'll see for the Warlord (and the other Mage) in the Academy?

https://boardgamegeek.com/article/25010093#25010093
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Iudicium86 on February 07, 2017, 04:28:47 PM
Can't wait. Much Excite!
I welcome anything that can help Warlord.
Especially hopefully some level 2 War Creatures.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: iNano78 on February 07, 2017, 04:35:49 PM
Searching that store for "Mage Wars Academy" reveals a preorder for Machtmeister, so it seems that it's Forcemaster.

As a playtester, would you be interested in confirming or denying these rumours? 
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Puddnhead on February 07, 2017, 06:57:10 PM
Searching that store for "Mage Wars Academy" reveals a preorder for Machtmeister, so it seems that it's Forcemaster.

As a playtester, would you be interested in confirming or denying these rumours?

That would be contrary to the NDA so I cannot confirm nor deny. ;)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: silverclawgrizzly on February 07, 2017, 10:34:55 PM
I can likewise not confirm or deny anything about your question iNano78 ;) :-X ;)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Zuberi on February 08, 2017, 08:15:16 AM
Searching that store for "Mage Wars Academy" reveals a preorder for Machtmeister, so it seems that it's Forcemaster.

As a playtester, would you be interested in confirming or denying these rumours?

As others have said, I can't confirm anything, all I can say is that I did not see that listed on the store myself. Hopefully that explains my original post and the vague prompts at speculation. I am ready to start seeing all the excitement and buzz around a future expansion again though. This lull where "the next thing" hasn't been announced or even hinted at is a bit unusual and not to my liking. Especially when people start thinking the sky is falling and the game is dead because nothing's been announced, and I know that we have so many exciting things in the works.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: iNano78 on February 08, 2017, 08:55:19 AM
Searching that store for "Mage Wars Academy" reveals a preorder for Machtmeister, so it seems that it's Forcemaster.

As a playtester, would you be interested in confirming or denying these rumours?

As others have said, I can't confirm anything, all I can say is that I did not see that listed on the store myself. Hopefully that explains my original post and the vague prompts at speculation. I am ready to start seeing all the excitement and buzz around a future expansion again though. This lull where "the next thing" hasn't been announced or even hinted at is a bit unusual and not to my liking. Especially when people start thinking the sky is falling and the game is dead because nothing's been announced, and I know that we have so many exciting things in the works.

I for one am still exploring all the new possibilities from Academy Warlock/Priestess, PvS and Lost Grimoire v1, which were all clumped pretty closely together. Domination + Academy Core Set came out close together, but they were relatively easy to digest That is, aside from the new play modes, most of the cards in Domination and in the Academy Core were sort of "more of the same" as what we already had (e.g. a lot of Academy cards were analogous to, albeit slightly different than, some Arena cards). PvS and LGv1 have MANY cards that really shake up the meta! And not everybody in our area has those expansions yet, but are getting a taste as they play against players using some of the new cards. So "what's next" isn't even on our radar just yet.

But I can see why the "Academy only" players might be wondering what's next, as they just have the 4 mages with relatively few options at customization.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Euer-Gnaden on February 08, 2017, 09:40:18 AM
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Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: V10lentray on February 08, 2017, 10:04:05 AM
Searching that store for "Mage Wars Academy" reveals a preorder for Machtmeister, so it seems that it's Forcemaster.

As a playtester, would you be interested in confirming or denying these rumours?

Sergeant Schultz from Hogan's Heroes would famously say, "I Know nothing... NOTHNIG!!!"
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Beldin on February 08, 2017, 10:16:44 AM
Sorry dude, no confirmation or denial here.  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Karadox on February 08, 2017, 10:58:26 AM
Alternative news?!
Make Mage Wars great again! ;) :) ;D
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on February 08, 2017, 11:11:49 AM
What do you mean you can't tell us? The information is clearly already out there. If stores are already allowing preorders of two new academy sets, and there aren't any other academy sets available for preorder, that means that those Academy sets will be coming out next. And considering that they're the warlord and the forcemaster (but in German, literally translated as "powermaster") I don't know how it could be any less obvious.


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Title: Next Expansion?
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on February 08, 2017, 11:17:06 AM
Oh btw I already made an academy fm theory crafting thread


http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=16279.0

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Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Karadox on February 08, 2017, 11:31:07 AM
It is probably not officially, so a playtester can not say anything yet.
But so that they do not say yes or no it already says everything!

So let's look forward to Academy Warlord and Forcemaster :) be happy!
The warlord is now much better than he was.
With new level one and two creatures.... we will see
I only hope the Warlord is not a Human, Dwarf or Orc is ok but i would like something new.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: iNano78 on February 08, 2017, 02:14:52 PM
The warlord is now much better than he was.
With new level one and two creatures.... we will see
I only hope the Warlord is not a Human, Dwarf or Orc is ok but i would like something new.

Right now, the only Level 1 War creatures are Goblin Grunts and Goblin Builders. It would definitely be nice to have more cheap War creature options, perhaps some that find strength in numbers, similar to Wychwood Hound (or even in combination like Steelclaw Cub/Matriarch).
**In comparison, Nature and Dark now each have 10 different Level 1 creatures; Holy has 6 including the Royal Armorer promo; Arcane only has 3, and that's including the promo Gorgon Spearthrower, but Wizards aren't really meant to be particularly swarmy; and Mind only has 1 = Meditating Monk who is Unique... but I'm not sure we'll see another Level 1 Mind creature in Academy (at least, that isn't also Unique/Legendary) since creature swarms wouldn't make sense thematically. A level 3-4 Mind school "buddy" might make sense in Academy, though, like a cheaper/weaker Invisible Stalker. There are currently no Level 3-4 Mind creatures.

Back to the Warlord:
A Dwarven "grunt" (perhaps "peon"?) would be cool, since the lowest level dwarves are currently Noble Vanguard (Level 2 = 1 Holy + 1 War), with several at Level 3 (Anvil Throne Crossbowman, Dwarf Kriegsbiel, Dwarf Panzergarde, Dwarf Kriegshammer, Ludwig Boltstorm and Otto Kronig, Master Engineer).

Hopefully the new Warlord Mage himself will be a Goblin like the one pictured on the 4th printing of Dissolve, as per Sailor Vulcan's post (http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=17725.msg80721#msg80721). Of course, we're still waiting to see what "Minor Living Animal Creature" is pictured on both Badger Frenzy and Panther Stealth...
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: V10lentray on February 08, 2017, 02:31:40 PM
Of course, we're still waiting to see what "Minor Living Animal Creature" is pictured on both Badger Frenzy and Panther Stealth...

I don't think they are minor creatures pictured. I think panther stealth is giving the elusiveness of cervere to a basic elf type soldier creature. And Badger frenzy is giving you the "crazed" aspect of the honey badger (honey badger don't care). And as someone who is a playtester, I do not recall seeing any badger type creature. But again we've seen hundreds of cards that have yet to see print.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: iNano78 on February 08, 2017, 02:38:01 PM
Of course, we're still waiting to see what "Minor Living Animal Creature" is pictured on both Badger Frenzy and Panther Stealth...

I don't think they are minor creatures pictured. I think panther stealth is giving the elusiveness of cervere to a basic elf type soldier creature. And Badger frenzy is giving you the "crazed" aspect of the honey badger (honey badger don't care). And as someone who is a playtester, I do not recall seeing any badger type creature. But again we've seen hundreds of cards that have yet to see print.

Yes, but the legal targets of those spells are "Minor Living Animal Creature" (Badger Frenzy) and "Minor Living Creature" (Panther Stealth), so the elf type soldier creature should have those subtypes/traits to be a legal target. Likewise, the goblin pictured in the new version of Dissolve must be a Mage, since Dissolve can only target a Mage.

(The original Bear Strength shows a non-Gorran werewolf (?), which also doesn't exist yet, but it was replaced with a goblin in the 4th printing; likewise, the creature depicted in the old Rhino Hide doesn't look like anything in the game to date, but it was replaced with a (Timber) Wolf in the 4th printing)

*edit* PS: Silverclaw Ratel is pretty badger-like, and even has a conditional Counterstrike, which makes sense considering what Badger Frenzy does.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Beldin on February 08, 2017, 02:52:49 PM
What do you mean you can't tell us? The information is clearly already out there. If stores are already allowing preorders of two new academy sets, and there aren't any other academy sets available for preorder, that means that those Academy sets will be coming out next. And considering that they're the warlord and the forcemaster (but in German, literally translated as "powermaster") I don't know how it could be any less obvious.

Each playtester, as part of the application process, signs a Non-Disclosure Agreement or NDA. So it is not that we do not want to tell you about the awesome stuff that is coming (and it is!), we cannot or face legal action and removal of playtester status.

Until Bryan et al make an official release announcement everything is hear say and speculation. I have not seen the website in question, but they could just be guessing considering that Academy releases have followed Arena so far and the natural next step would be FM vs Warlord.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: iNano78 on February 08, 2017, 03:01:52 PM
What do you mean you can't tell us? The information is clearly already out there. If stores are already allowing preorders of two new academy sets, and there aren't any other academy sets available for preorder, that means that those Academy sets will be coming out next. And considering that they're the warlord and the forcemaster (but in German, literally translated as "powermaster") I don't know how it could be any less obvious.

Each playtester, as part of the application process, signs a Non-Disclosure Agreement or NDA. So it is not that we do not want to tell you about the awesome stuff that is coming (and it is!), we cannot or face legal action and removal of playtester status.

Until Bryan et al make an official release announcement everything is hear say and speculation. I have not seen the website in question, but they could just be guessing considering that Academy releases have followed Arena so far and the natural next step would be FM vs Warlord.


... except that the website in question is PegasusShop.de, which is the online store for Pegasus Spiele, a game publisher that publishes Mage Wars (and some other Arcane Wonders games) in some European countries ... so they have sufficient inside info that they don't really need to speculate.

http://www.pegasus.de/mage-wars/ (http://www.pegasus.de/mage-wars/)

*edit* It even has a product number...
(http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17795.0;attach=969;image)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Beldin on February 08, 2017, 03:10:12 PM
As I said before I hadn't seen the site and there is no notification on this thread other than what you just posted. Also as stated before I cannot confirm or deny any details until there is an official release by Arcane Wonders, nor can any of the other playtesters.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: iNano78 on February 08, 2017, 03:46:13 PM
In fact, more than that, the Arena Forcemaster expansion lists it as Machtmeisterin, which implies the Academy Machtmeister will be male.
(The Warlord = Kriegsherr appears to be male, same as for the Arena expansion)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Super Sorcerer on February 09, 2017, 10:48:50 AM
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There are even estimated arrival dates in that store site. July for the forcemaster and october for the warlord.
It is possible that there would be an arena expansion before. If so, then  we would probably see something about it soon.
Other expansions mentioned by Arcane Wonder officials in various interviews include the archmage, the wizard and forcemaster (I think they named it "balance the force" or something like that) and the Barbarian VS Sorcerer (and an illusionist was once mentioned as a mage). Since arcane wonder usually alternates between a couple of new mages and a couple of new versions for old mages, the next mages would likely be the new wizard and forcemaster. It is possible that it would be the next expansion. I would even say it is likely, since the archmage expansion is a new game mode like domination, and isn't likely to include radical changes such as frost (and there were hints that frost should be out in the next expansion).
At least that it my guess, I am no playtester and I can only guess by the small hints that are published ^_^
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: V10lentray on February 09, 2017, 11:19:07 AM
In fact, more than that, the Arena Forcemaster expansion lists it as Machtmeisterin, which implies the Academy Machtmeister will be male.
(The Warlord = Kriegsherr appears to be male, same as for the Arena expansion)

or the male pronoun is used as a generic tern.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: iNano78 on February 09, 2017, 11:21:38 AM
In fact, more than that, the Arena Forcemaster expansion lists it as Machtmeisterin, which implies the Academy Machtmeister will be male.
(The Warlord = Kriegsherr appears to be male, same as for the Arena expansion)

or the male pronoun is used as a generic tern.

But it isn't for the Arena Forcemaster vs Warlord... (Machtmeisterin is feminine), so that implies the Academy Forcemaster is male.

(See also the German Academy Priestess expansion, which is feminine)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Halewijn on February 09, 2017, 11:37:43 AM
Or arcane wonders is bad in German?  :P

(Kriegsbiel)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Karadox on February 09, 2017, 11:50:44 AM
Kriegsherr would be female Krigsherrin

But I do not think that AW will ever make a war mistress!

War always remains the same....  ;)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: V10lentray on February 09, 2017, 02:15:25 PM

or the male pronoun is used as a generic term.


But it isn't for the Arena Forcemaster vs Warlord... (Machtmeisterin is feminine), so that implies the Academy Forcemaster is male.

(See also the German Academy Priestess expansion, which is feminine)

Because those are out and confirmed as the specific genders. an academy force master is still in speculation, so the male pronoun is being used as a place holder until it is confirmed.

The generic for human is Man. Which is why I'm saying that the Male pronoun is just a placeholder.

Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: TonyGullotti on February 14, 2017, 08:09:42 AM
Here's a little preview of an ad we're working on:

(http://www.arcanewonders.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/MageWarsAcademySpread.jpg)

We will begin sending out more information in months to come along with previewing cards from the set. I'm working on a few of the details still, but releases will be around the major conventions we're attending this year.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: silverclawgrizzly on February 14, 2017, 08:54:10 AM
I'm particularly proud of both those expansions. They both add A LOT of good stuff to their respective mages. I'd be hard pressed to say which is going to be more influential to their respective classes though I guess I'd go with Warlord as there's two of them currently.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Reddicediaries on February 14, 2017, 08:55:28 AM
When are they coming out?
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Halewijn on February 14, 2017, 09:06:37 AM
I agree. Apart from nice academy sets, both will incredibly open up the strategies of their respective Arena mages! They both introduce very fresh and awesome cards.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: iNano78 on February 14, 2017, 10:02:09 AM
Here's a little preview of an ad we're working on:

(http://www.arcanewonders.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/MageWarsAcademySpread.jpg)

We will begin sending out more information in months to come along with previewing cards from the set. I'm working on a few of the details still, but releases will be around the major conventions we're attending this year.

See? I told you the Forcemaster was male.  :o

So... is that a Merren Forcemaster?

And did this Warlord flunk out of Paladin school? Maybe has to redo his Warlord courses before being accepted back into the Paladin program? Or maybe he failed Seminary but couldn't afford a more Warlord-ish uniform?
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: silverclawgrizzly on February 14, 2017, 10:16:32 AM
That's a female Force Master...
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: farkas1 on February 14, 2017, 10:17:23 AM
I am going to say is players who love these mages are going to really enjoy these sets.  Warlord will not be considered second tier (for those that rank mages) after this set and the forcemaster will take over as being supreme ruler of all things Mage wars. 

I am very excited to add these cards to my arena books!
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Borg on February 14, 2017, 10:24:29 AM
forcemaster will take over as being supreme ruler of all things Mage wars.
Can't wait to see a couple more in-school useful creatures and see my favourite mage take its destined spot in the MW hierarchy ... at the top :)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Karadox on February 14, 2017, 12:42:26 PM
hmm, looks like the warlord is a High Elf

I would have been glad about something less human....

Will the Warlord get new War Conjurations? I do not believe but lvl 1-2 creatures you can not have enough from, more choices, more cannons feed ;)

I think the warlord has become one of the better mages Already...
Champion's` Gauntlets alone are so good!

and Forcemaster is a Dark Elf?
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on February 14, 2017, 03:24:04 PM
She looks like she's merren actually.


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Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: silverclawgrizzly on February 14, 2017, 03:37:25 PM
hmm, looks like the warlord is a High Elf

I think the warlord has become one of the better mages Already...
Champion's` Gauntlets alone are so good!

I agree completely. The gloves, plus Ballista, plus the stuff coming in Academy. War is going to take over. Can not wait until the previews start. I think both Bloodwave and Anvil Throne are going to do just fine.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: V10lentray on February 15, 2017, 08:38:11 AM
She looks like she's merren actually.


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To quote the Little Mermaid - "It's a whole new world...."
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: V10lentray on February 15, 2017, 08:39:40 AM
Here's a little preview of an ad we're working on:

(http://www.arcanewonders.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/MageWarsAcademySpread.jpg)

We will begin sending out more information in months to come along with previewing cards from the set. I'm working on a few of the details still, but releases will be around the major conventions we're attending this year.

There you go... ruining the fun of us playtesters screwing with the other people.....

I will say that the Warlod is getting some nice toys, and we will add an interesting spin on the forcemaster...
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: bigfatchef on February 15, 2017, 12:18:22 PM
I am looking happily forward to find some new forcemaster strategies for arena in that set!
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: TonyGullotti on February 15, 2017, 01:27:50 PM
There you go... ruining the fun of us playtesters screwing with the other people.....

I will say that the Warlod is getting some nice toys, and we will add an interesting spin on the forcemaster...

I prefer to look at it as "sharing with our rabid fanbase before I send an ad out to our general public" --but I guess stomping on the playtesters' fun could be seen as a perk.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: silverclawgrizzly on February 15, 2017, 04:14:05 PM
There you go... ruining the fun of us playtesters screwing with the other people.....

I will say that the Warlod is getting some nice toys, and we will add an interesting spin on the forcemaster...

I prefer to look at it as "sharing with our rabid fanbase before I send an ad out to our general public" --but I guess stomping on the playtesters' fun could be seen as a perk.

One of the many benefits of being the boss lol
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: netzhuffle on February 18, 2017, 03:02:26 PM
And considering that they're the warlord and the forcemaster (but in German, literally translated as "powermaster")

Interesting thing is, yes, the German “Macht” normally is “power” in English. But in Star Wars, “die Macht” is “the Force”. So “Machtmeisterin” is a pretty cool translation of Forcemaster considering her typical tricks in the arena. :)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Beldin on February 27, 2017, 01:49:58 AM
Both are solid sets that people will love. Each has very nice toys for both arena and academy and not just for the mages on the boxes.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: iNano78 on March 02, 2017, 09:17:02 AM
A teaser on the Mage Wars official Facebook page suggests Academy Forcemaster and Warlord should pre-release at Origins and Gen Con, with card previews starting after the GAMA trade show.
https://www.facebook.com/MageWars/ (https://www.facebook.com/MageWars/)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: silverclawgrizzly on March 02, 2017, 09:54:11 AM
Nice link iNano78. Very very happy the time lines out there now. You know in case anyone was wondering what's legal for any large tournaments I'm judging later this year.... 8)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: V10lentray on March 03, 2017, 12:49:42 PM
so the Origins release will be legal, the GenCon Released set will not be legal at Gencon.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: silverclawgrizzly on March 03, 2017, 01:02:01 PM
so the Origins release will be legal, the GenCon Released set will not be legal at Gencon.

Right you are Ray.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Iudicium86 on March 10, 2017, 08:48:54 PM
I so desperately hope the Warlord gets some good level 1 and 2 creatures. That will help out his barrack tactics for sure, while leaving more SBP room since currently, you have to go out of school, paying more SBP for good 1 and 2 soldier creatures.

As it stands, his only level 1 creatures are a tiny 4 health grunt, and a suicide bomber that can also be exploded by the enemy against you.
And only level 2 creature worth a damn is the Orc Butcher, otherwise the other two are ranged (slinger/alchemist)
Only at level 3+ does War have good creatures, but anyone can tell you how impossible it is to deploy & swarm every turn nothing but 3's and 4's.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: V10lentray on March 14, 2017, 01:25:28 PM

I so desperately hope the Warlord gets some good level 1 and 2 creatures. That will help out his barrack tactics for sure, while leaving more SBP room since currently, you have to go out of school, paying more SBP for good 1 and 2 soldier creatures.


Every attempt I have tried with the barracks has ended in failure.  The startup costs in order to generate mana really set you back. you have to spend a minimum 20, to generate 3 a turn. You need to last past 7 rounds in order to break even.

I want a good goblin swarm book as bad as the next guy, but I just cant get the barracks to work.  I wish they would have released the Promo card "Tunnel" in a set, that would add to the incentive to play with the various outposts.

I will say that there are some nice level 1 and 2 creatures in the academy set. but I think that the barracks and other outposts are just too cost prohibitive. and I've had this discussion with other people who want the warlord to be really good, but the outposts are just really hard to work with.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: iNano78 on March 14, 2017, 01:38:57 PM

I so desperately hope the Warlord gets some good level 1 and 2 creatures. That will help out his barrack tactics for sure, while leaving more SBP room since currently, you have to go out of school, paying more SBP for good 1 and 2 soldier creatures.


Every attempt I have tried with the barracks has ended in failure.  The startup costs in order to generate mana really set you back. you have to spend a minimum 20, to generate 3 a turn. You need to last past 7 rounds in order to break even.

You can "break even" a lot earlier than turn 7 when you factor in the action advantage of summoning Full-cast creatures 2 or more spaces away from your Barracks - e.g. to your Garrison Posts. My main Warlord enemy friend often opens with Barracks + Garrison Post, then drops another Garrison Post, in a "V" pattern (Garrison posts out front; Barracks in the middle of the back wall). From there, he has 3 different zones from which he can deploy creatures, and can summon regular-speed (non-Slow, non-Fast) Soldier creatures such that they can attack any of 8 different zones on their first activation. That's pretty huge!

As I often say, "Bloodwave Warlord is really good in multiplayer Domination." I fear that if the Warlord were any stronger, he'd be too good in Domination! I suspect he'll easily be the number 1 contender in Domination when Academy Warlord arrives.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Coshade on March 14, 2017, 01:39:25 PM
@ V10lentray -- I would try holding off casting Barracks until turn 2 or 3. This lets you see if it's safe or not to use the Barracks play or cast a higher level creature.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Iudicium86 on March 14, 2017, 04:25:12 PM

I so desperately hope the Warlord gets some good level 1 and 2 creatures. That will help out his barrack tactics for sure, while leaving more SBP room since currently, you have to go out of school, paying more SBP for good 1 and 2 soldier creatures.


Every attempt I have tried with the barracks has ended in failure.  The startup costs in order to generate mana really set you back. you have to spend a minimum 20, to generate 3 a turn. You need to last past 7 rounds in order to break even.

You can "break even" a lot earlier than turn 7 when you factor in the action advantage of summoning Full-cast creatures 2 or more spaces away from your Barracks - e.g. to your Garrison Posts. My main Warlord enemy friend often opens with Barracks + Garrison Post, then drops another Garrison Post, in a "V" pattern (Garrison posts out front; Barracks in the middle of the back wall). From there, he has 3 different zones from which he can deploy creatures, and can summon regular-speed (non-Slow, non-Fast) Soldier creatures such that they can attack any of 8 different zones on their first activation. That's pretty huge!

As I often say, "Bloodwave Warlord is really good in multiplayer Domination." I fear that if the Warlord were any stronger, he'd be too good in Domination! I suspect he'll easily be the number 1 contender in Domination when Academy Warlord arrives.

Yeah, I believe the cost isn't as huge a deterrent when you consider the action advantage. I do like summoning creatures with choice of placement, while keeping my own Mage's actions free to use, which is often a Meditation Amulet or Ivarium Longbow.

And I just wish I could go into freeze/stasis and be woken when Warlord Academy arrives! I need it now!
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Santar on March 22, 2017, 09:24:48 AM
(https://pp.userapi.com/c604727/v604727313/360ce/hq_yyUrn9hc.jpg)
(https://pp.userapi.com/c604727/v604727313/360d7/ng8dnrfIVMI.jpg)
Mb some creatures with dissipate tokens for FM?
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Enti on March 22, 2017, 09:48:00 AM
looks rad
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on March 22, 2017, 10:52:23 AM
(https://pp.userapi.com/c604727/v604727313/360ce/hq_yyUrn9hc.jpg)
(https://pp.userapi.com/c604727/v604727313/360d7/ng8dnrfIVMI.jpg)
Mb some creatures with dissipate tokens for FM?

Where did you find those pics?


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Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: silverclawgrizzly on March 22, 2017, 01:10:16 PM
I'm honestly more excited about these sets than I was PvS.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Santar on March 22, 2017, 01:53:29 PM
Google- mage wars art and near 2 hours looking.

I'm very exciting about this set!
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: silverclawgrizzly on March 22, 2017, 03:49:37 PM
More for the Force Master or Warlord?
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Santar on March 22, 2017, 04:37:10 PM
Both.
I like Siren and FM, so Meren FM will bring new songs and interesting mind creatures. (we all can see strange vessels with the head of beasts).

And Warlords are too poor with cheap creatures, I like barracks and zone control + this 1-2 lvl creatures buf Paladin =)

And I like Mage Wars too much :)
You can see it on my youtube "Дуэли в Mage Wars"

And I want new enchantments! Like melee +1 and range +1, melee +1 and armor +1 =)
And new range weapon!
11 mana, 1-3 range, 6-4 dices ^^ lvl 3 war
(https://pp.userapi.com/c604727/v604727841/3f341/LPH4McXXdfI.jpg)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on March 22, 2017, 04:51:51 PM
Both.
I like Siren and FM, so Meren FM will bring new songs and interesting mind creatures. (we all can see strange vessels with the head of beasts).

And Warlords are too poor with cheap creatures, I like barracks and zone control + this 1-2 lvl creatures buf Paladin =)

And I like Mage Wars too much :)
You can see it on my youtube "Дуэли в Mage Wars"

And I want new enchantments! Like melee +1 and range +1, melee +1 and armor +1 =)
And new range weapon!
11 mana, 1-3 range, 6-4 dices ^^ lvl 3 war
(https://pp.userapi.com/c604727/v604727841/3f341/LPH4McXXdfI.jpg)

That gun looks fantastic! Is that a Mage Wars gun?


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Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Santar on March 22, 2017, 04:54:22 PM
Yes! It was done for Arcane Wonders befor FiF.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: jacksmack on March 22, 2017, 05:09:01 PM
Ruby Aim... doesnt get more precise than that!
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Santar on March 22, 2017, 05:20:16 PM
(http://orig12.deviantart.net/de56/f/2017/079/b/3/captain_s_cape_by_emmanuelmadailart-db2yb0l.jpg)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Santar on March 22, 2017, 06:20:12 PM
(http://img08.deviantart.net/2e44/i/2016/334/1/2/torgo_by_andreatm-daq3hid.jpg)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Santar on March 22, 2017, 06:26:58 PM
(https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/005/308/638/large/emmanuel-julian-web1.jpg?1490107077)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Santar on March 22, 2017, 06:28:20 PM
(https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/005/293/810/large/giuseppe-de-iure-stalagmite-magewars-dig-web.jpg?1490002887)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Santar on March 22, 2017, 06:29:27 PM
(https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/005/293/790/large/giuseppe-de-iure-strategist-s-helm-magewars-dig-web.jpg?1490002658)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Santar on March 22, 2017, 06:40:33 PM
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/3f7a103f91b0457ec0a0c7ea37604433/tumblr_nw9q6ekBgf1rzzs3fo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: silverclawgrizzly on March 22, 2017, 06:51:20 PM
Take some of these with a grain of salt in terms of the academy sets.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Iudicium86 on March 23, 2017, 07:25:44 PM
Man that ninja one I hope is a soldier type. And I'm going to imagine a Legendary type.
Would be very sweet if it she had an Invisible Stalker sort of token. Hiding in the shadows and invisible, but attacks and becomes visible.

And that gun I simply need immediately!
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Coshade on March 23, 2017, 11:39:24 PM
Sweet images! Nice finds! Cant wait for the new sets
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: V10lentray on March 24, 2017, 10:50:48 AM
these are old news for some of us....  8)
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: DevilsVendetta on April 09, 2017, 02:51:39 PM
When should we start expecting teasers for the cards in the two upcoming releases? I believe someone said after GAMA which occurred a few weeks back I think.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: silverclawgrizzly on April 09, 2017, 03:37:37 PM
Gotta talk to Tony and Arcane Duels for that. I'm also looking forward to being able to discuss these sets.
Title: Re: Next Expansion?
Post by: Beldin on April 09, 2017, 04:59:49 PM
Gotta talk to Tony and Arcane Duels for that. I'm also looking forward to being able to discuss these sets.

Yes am I. They are awesome.