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Lets say that all the 9 channeling mages (excluding druid) got buffed to 10 channeling.

Would you say: "Because they buffed Mage X, ill never play Druid, Forcemaster, Necromancer, Priestess or Wizard again!".

Because i can't...

Long time ago when Meditation amulet was a promo i voiced my concern. (http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=12950.0)
Most people called it trash just by looking at it. "it takes 2 actions, and then your still down 1 mana."

However after some time meditation amulet anyway found its way into the meta. It was definitely not used by all (spawnpoint) books, but it was represented occasionally and with mixed success. Back then necromancers seemed to benefit the most from it and could often get away with spending their full action on building their manapool while libro pumped out brutes.
After some time it saw more and more play and was eventually perceived as a good card with its uses.

(Rather recently) a few other cards has been released which also exchanges actions to mana.
Remove curse

Besides this we got new mana generators:
Wispwillow Amulet
Mana Lotus
Remove curse (can be used to generate mana only and not removing.)
Ritual of Kallek

Ritual of Kallek is a chapter of its own. Since this card is in the game it more or less nullifies the other generators, but im still mentioning them because even without Kallek they still try to do what Kalleks does but in a less efficient and/or consistent way which could potentially still be a problem even if Kallek was errataed or banned.

Before i move on:
Looking at any single card isolated is not very interesting. Its how a card synergies with other cards and mechanics of the game.

So whats is the problem?
In short: Rush / fast books cannot compete anymore.... AT ALL. They are dead with the current card pool.

It has for a LONG time (many releases) been an uphill battle to rush vs defensive spawnpoint mages who stays in their starting zone. But the combination of the above mentioned cards simply wrecks the last tiny chance fast books had vs them.

Its pretty simple... the time (rounds) it takes for you to cross the board and either engage the opponent mage or attempt to get board control is longer than the time that it takes for your opponent to recover his initial mana expense of the spawnpoint(s).
Im not gonna go in to the details on how this is performed by the defensive player... if you disagree with this feel free to try any fast book of yours and attempt to beat my tripple spawnpoint necromancer, my gate wizard....and for the sake of it... i could make a Priestess abusing the above mentioned cards as well. (This is on OCTGN.)

Kallek is potentially the biggest but not the only problem. Crumble and Disperse also deserves to be mentioned.
It used to be the case that (not counting discount rings) that casting an enchantment and benefiting from it before it would be dispelled would leave you ahead in the sense that for instance with a bear strength you would have gotten 1 attack off with more dice leaving the offensive player in some sort of an advantage after he nullified your quick cast.
Crumble and Disperse skews this in a problematic way... It makes undoing too easy and adds to the forgiveness of the initial mana sink of the spawnpoints.

All in all there are too many ways to get mana back too fast.

Without having played a single domination game at this point, i'm leaning more and more to that format being the best for MW since it wont allow you to sit in your corner and just abuse you start 5 zones from each other and correspond correctly to your opponents actions.

Spellbook Design and Construction / Re: Priest - first draft
« on: July 27, 2019, 04:33:25 AM »
I think you will have a hard time vs:
Gate wizard, undo wizard, temple priestess and Druid.

You have too few offensive options/pressure vs slow books.
I don’t mention necromancer zombie spam because your holy, and you probably have a decent or good chance vs walking dead army.

« on: June 08, 2019, 01:25:34 AM »
Life remaining still remains the best way to judge a tie to me.

Could not disagree more...

Vs a control book its completely normal to forfeit a game where you have more or less 0 damage while the opponent (typically wizard) can be between 20 and 31 damage... simply because you ran out of options to do damage to him.

« on: June 05, 2019, 12:43:05 PM »
I think it looks good with the tie breaker.

Interested in how it turns out.

Good luck with the tournament.

Its clear now - thanks Puddin and Dave.

Short answer:
Just like siren is schooled in all pirates I read it as the paladin is schooled in all holy creatures - not just the “part” of them that holy.
Similar with FM.

I'd like an official response to this.

I get how you calculate Devils Trident (1 dark 1 fire) to 3 points for a necromancer, 2 points for warlocks, 4 points for a FM / wizard / Siren, and 5 points for a Paladin / beastmaster / druid / Priests.

But IMO your comparing apples to oranges wtfcannonjr.

When your trained in a specific school of creatures i think its different.

Oboko is a mind creature AND a holy creature. This meets the requirement for both mages.

Paladin Training: Trained in Holy level 3, War level 2, and all Holy Creatures. Dark Spells cost triple.
(Oboko is holy)

Forcemaster Training: Trained in the Mind school of Magic. Non-Mind creature spells cost triple during spellbook construction.
(Oboko is not non-mind... he is mind.)

Oboko cost for the Paladin and Forcemaster are currently on OCTGN priced 5 and 4 respectively.
Both are wrong. They both get him for 3 SBP each.

Rules Discussion / Re: Damage to Swarm Creature between attacks
« on: June 01, 2019, 12:12:02 PM »
This is for arena.

The Killer Bees are fairly simple.

Each time you reach step 7 you check to see if the requirement for more strikes is met.

1. Declare Attack
2. Pay Costs
3. Roll to Miss
4. Avoid Attack
5. Roll Dice
6. Damage & Effects
7. Additional Strikes
8. Damage Barrier

9. Counterstrike
10. Attack Ends

Because the additional strikes occur before damage barrier and counter strike step, a full health Killer Bee Swarm can do a total of 4 attacks with 1 dice each against the same target.

You run the steps from 3 - 7 a total of 4 times (unless the bees somehow loses health in the meantime (can theoretically happen)), and on the 4th time there is no more additional strikes allowed so you proceed to step 8-10.

The Ants are less obvious. I dare say that they are a mess.
As written: They run step 1-7 instead of 3-7 when they choose a new target. And they leave the original sequence hanging for a later resolution.
In order to keep things simple i think it should be ruled that when they choose a new target in step 7 it follows the rules for sweeping, and the first sequence has all steps fully executed before a new sequence is started.

Libro and graveyard was released in the same set.
They have different wordings, and I guess there’s some thought behind that.
I believe the wraith is currently the only creature that the libro cannot cast that the graveyard can.

Alternative Play / Re: OCTGN Mage Wars module 2.1.22 patch notes
« on: May 11, 2019, 11:07:59 PM »
Try letting the stats card be top instead of the mage card.
(Or vice versa.)

Solved it for my necromancer.

Events / Re: The Arcane Duels League
« on: May 01, 2019, 02:42:28 PM »
Necromancer book seems to be bugged.

Cant add any necromancer only cards.

Lets do it friday and hope for a quick fix.
Put stats card above mage card in book. Might help.

works - thanks.

I can be ready in 20 minutes Jason

Events / Re: The Arcane Duels League
« on: May 01, 2019, 02:21:46 PM »
Necromancer book seems to be bugged.

Cant add any necromancer only cards.

Lets do it friday and hope for a quick fix.

Events / Re: The Arcane Duels League
« on: May 01, 2019, 09:18:41 AM »
Jack, we can either do our match in roundabout 20 hours or we can do it friday night/evening.

What would you prefer?

I also can't find you on the MW Discord, what's your nickname on there?

So in 5-6 hours from now?

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