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Re: Gurmash, Orc Sergeant
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2014, 10:02:53 PM »

Ooooh, I am sorry but the #1 answer was "All of the Above."

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Yeah give him Charge and a Battle Fury and see what he can wreck.....

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Re: Gurmash, Orc Sergeant
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2014, 10:57:05 AM »
Gurmash is good to buff ranged units and to defend them. With the bowmen, they make a fantastic combo.

Yeah I want to try using more ranged; I usually only end up a 1-2 slingers and a bowman on average.  The only problem with range heavy focus is if someone goes heavy on the melee early..

When do you usually get him out?  after 2+ ranged?

That's why xbowmen are good. They are efficient at both ranged and melee. Get him out after the first xbowman. That way you can protect him and buff him with the right command.

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Re: Gurmash, Orc Sergeant
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2014, 06:41:01 PM »
with all the people here saying its hard to find a time where gurmash is worth it, is the same true for the imp familiar? I've seen almost no one yet talk about the new warlock on the forum

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Re: Gurmash, Orc Sergeant
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2014, 07:58:10 PM »
I can immediately see uses for the Imp Familiar, and Ring of Curses works fantastically with him. That gives you nice control options and reasonable damage options.

The Orc Sergeant seems harder to use effectively because there isn't a discount ring that works with him on a ton of spells you would want him to cast, and the range of attractive options is more limited. The main options that seem decent are Defend, Standard Bearer, and Fortified Position (and I don't really like Standard Bearer or Fortified Position in many lines of play). Well, and maybe Battle Orders. The thing is that you don't really want to cast Battle Fury or Flank Attack on a creature until right before it attacks. Same with Charge, Perfect Strike, Piercing Strike, Power Strike... Running into a Tanglevine or other control spell after already casting a command on a creature is just horrible. So while I think Gurmash can be useful, it will take a lot more thought to get him to pull his weight. You can basically cast whatever curse enchantment you want with Sesyrix, and it works great.
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Re: Gurmash, Orc Sergeant
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2014, 08:58:46 PM »
I can immediately see uses for the Imp Familiar, and Ring of Curses works fantastically with him. That gives you nice control options and reasonable damage options.

The Orc Sergeant seems harder to use effectively because there isn't a discount ring that works with him on a ton of spells you would want him to cast, and the range of attractive options is more limited. The main options that seem decent are Defend, Standard Bearer, and Fortified Position (and I don't really like Standard Bearer or Fortified Position in many lines of play). Well, and maybe Battle Orders. The thing is that you don't really want to cast Battle Fury or Flank Attack on a creature until right before it attacks. Same with Charge, Perfect Strike, Piercing Strike, Power Strike... Running into a Tanglevine or other control spell after already casting a command on a creature is just horrible. So while I think Gurmash can be useful, it will take a lot more thought to get him to pull his weight. You can basically cast whatever curse enchantment you want with Sesyrix, and it works great.

Brace yourself seems pretty good too.  I pretty much agree with all of this, though.  I've seen sersyrix be played well, even by a novice player.  I've been playing for more than 2 years now and I'm struggling to get Gurmash to fit into a strat.  My point isn't that I'm "omg so gud" but I think it's pretty obvious one has more immediate strategic value than the other.



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Re: Gurmash, Orc Sergeant
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2014, 09:23:54 PM »
Right, I forgot about Brace Yourself.
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Re: Gurmash, Orc Sergeant
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2014, 07:33:34 PM »
I can immediately see uses for the Imp Familiar, and Ring of Curses works fantastically with him. That gives you nice control options and reasonable damage options.

In general, I assumed that rings only worked when a mage cast a spell, not a familiar?

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Re: Gurmash, Orc Sergeant
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2014, 10:19:30 PM »
I can immediately see uses for the Imp Familiar, and Ring of Curses works fantastically with him. That gives you nice control options and reasonable damage options.

In general, I assumed that rings only worked when a mage cast a spell, not a familiar?

imp casts the curse face down. warlock reveals the curse and gets the ring discount.  its always the mage who reveals the enchantment

and ring of curses only gives the discount while revealing the curse.
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Re: Gurmash, Orc Sergeant
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2014, 07:09:39 AM »
Gurmash is good to buff ranged units and to defend them. With the bowmen, they make a fantastic combo.

Totally agree. He stands in a nest of snipers, slingers and crossbows, yelling battle commands, but ready to lay in if anyone gets too close.

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Re: Gurmash, Orc Sergeant
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2014, 07:35:23 AM »
iīve used Gurmash when i play my warlord building with forge, when my warlord have 3 equipments i summon gurshmash and he buffing my warlord with battle fury, itīs amazing.