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Adramelech's Torment
« on: April 02, 2016, 04:47:21 PM »
Does Adramelech's Torment require the Mage to have LoS it's target? There's no range, and thus I've assumed no LOS required, but no I'm wondering...

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Re: Adramelech's Torment
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2016, 05:26:30 PM »
If it needs a "target" , it needs LOS.

For example, effects like Divine Intervention or Blue Gremlin don't need LOS.
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Re: Adramelech's Torment
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2016, 08:11:29 PM »
So, in short, yes.  Adramelech's Torment requires Line of Sight because it specifically says "target creature".
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Re: Adramelech's Torment
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2016, 08:39:57 PM »
Anytime you see the word "target" in card text, like in Adramelech's Torment, LoS is a requirement for targeting. For this spell there is no range limiter.
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Re: Adramelech's Torment
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2016, 02:14:03 AM »
So, in short, yes.  Adramelech's Torment requires Line of Sight because it specifically says "target creature".

All being MtG players, we had exactly this debate (knowing that in MtG and similar games, there's a world of difference between 'targeting' a creature and say 'choosing' or 'selecting' a creature). However 'Target isn't a keyword ability in the rulebook (even v4).

What I didn't find in the game was the Targeting section on p15 of the full Rules and Codex document, which effectively makes it so (or at least a defined game term) - it's clear there.

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Re: Adramelech's Torment
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2016, 06:21:41 AM »
Yea, found the rules section a bit sloppy, too 
(No offense AW...awesome game and job - just teasing  8) ;) ;D  plz don't ban )



So, in short, yes.  Adramelech's Torment requires Line of Sight because it specifically says "target creature".

All being MtG players, we had exactly this debate (knowing that in MtG and similar games, there's a world of difference between 'targeting' a creature and say 'choosing' or 'selecting' a creature). However 'Target isn't a keyword ability in the rulebook (even v4).

What I didn't find in the game was the Targeting section on p15 of the full Rules and Codex document, which effectively makes it so (or at least a defined game term) - it's clear there.

Thanks!
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Re: Adramelech's Torment
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2016, 08:13:32 AM »
Yea, found the rules section a bit sloppy, too 
(No offense AW...awesome game and job - just teasing  8) ;) ;D  plz don't ban )

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Re: Adramelech's Torment
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2016, 08:29:50 AM »
One also has to admit that such a game attracts some seriously high-level nerds and number-crunchers - they will certainly find sth. Always.  8)


Yea, found the rules section a bit sloppy, too 
(No offense AW...awesome game and job - just teasing  8) ;) ;D  plz don't ban )

Don't worry. I don't ban people for honest criticism.
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