September 23, 2017, 05:49:47 AM

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Spellbook Builder
« on: January 19, 2017, 09:40:01 AM »
Any update on if Spell Book Builder will ever be worth using again?

It's still missing -

Domination
Paladin Vs Siren
Lost Grimore
Academy Beastmastrer
Academy Priestess
Academy Warlock
Academy Wizard

This lack of updating just leads more to the effect of AW, losing interest in supporting MW.
It makes it seem like AW is forcing people to use 3rd party software (OCTGN) to play the game.  To me this is us acceptable. While Wizards of the cost is an infinitely larger company, when a new magic set is released, it is uploaded into their card database.  We are currently over a year behind on cards being added to spell book builder. 

A set is completed 4-5 months before it is released to the public. there is no excuse that those cards can not be created for upload into SBB in that time frame, and have them uploaded into the builder the same week the cards are released to game stores.

Lost Grimore final file was released to playtesters in late April and released to the public in November. That was 6 months, from final Digital version to printed product, yet those cards are still not in SBB. Battlegrounds: Domination was released well over a year ago.

Has AW given up on supporting MW other than releasing card sets?
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Re: Spellbook Builder
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2017, 10:00:39 AM »
Thankfully, your pleas have been voiced and answered already in this thread here:

http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=1420.msg80429#new
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Re: Spellbook Builder
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2017, 10:26:30 AM »
Yeah, lots of discussion concerning the Spellbook builder today  :P

In all seriousness, we do understand the frustration. Arcane Wonders has experienced a lot of changes in the past couple months, and the SBB is definitely on the list of projects we are actively working on. We're not trying to be vague with the details, we're just trying to work through how to efficiently get the updates done to the current tools and also allow the fans to build their own SBBs if desired --we're watching those with interest.

Additionally, I'll be rolling out an updated website soon, so resources for all the individual product pages are being pulled together so there isn't any missing information, Rulebooks etc.

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Re: Spellbook Builder
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2017, 10:49:38 AM »
For the sake of accuracy, Battlegrounds Domination is in the SBB/Database. Well, at least the cards from that set are there, although you can't choose it as a set that you own, so you have to disable card counts in order to add any Domination cards to your book. And on top of that, any of the Domination cards with the "Epic"  trait can't be added, even with card counts ignored, because that trait was accidentally listed under "Mage type" in the database, and since you can't have "Mage type = Epic", it will always give an error when adding it to your book.

But aside from that, yes, it's hopelessly out of date.
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Re: Spellbook Builder
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2017, 03:47:41 PM »
I discovered Tony's post shortly after posting my question. I have always loved this game and bring it every week to my massive 100+ player gaming group yet can't get people willing to play, not only because of it's complexity, but because of lack of support from the company. The last time I played MW was at GenCon.

Yet last week, out of the blue an old friend I haven't talked to in about 5 years appeared at my gaming group with a friend. they asked what I was playing and I hadn't decided on anything yet, as I had just finished a game of Boss monster. I mentioned that I bought my favorite game ever, but can't ever get people to play it with me. when I told him it was mage wars, his face totally lit up. He owns every expansion except for PvS, and also never gets to play and loves it.

So I ran them both through a game, and not the other guy is going to get it, so I have a few people to play with, yet no real easy way to build new books.  I look forward to next week playing the one guy who is going to bring a book of his own, (he watches tons of the Arcane duels streams), and crushing him with playtest cards that aren't released yet!

But getting a functional SBB is incredibly important. And you are even smaller of a company then you were since letting Aaron go. The fact that players are growing on OCTGN shows that the game is loved, but it appears that AW does not support the players.
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Re: Spellbook Builder
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2017, 04:24:35 PM »
I discovered Tony's post shortly after posting my question. I have always loved this game and bring it every week to my massive 100+ player gaming group yet can't get people willing to play, not only because of it's complexity, but because of lack of support from the company. The last time I played MW was at GenCon.

Yet last week, out of the blue an old friend I haven't talked to in about 5 years appeared at my gaming group with a friend. they asked what I was playing and I hadn't decided on anything yet, as I had just finished a game of Boss monster. I mentioned that I bought my favorite game ever, but can't ever get people to play it with me. when I told him it was mage wars, his face totally lit up. He owns every expansion except for PvS, and also never gets to play and loves it.

So I ran them both through a game, and not the other guy is going to get it, so I have a few people to play with, yet no real easy way to build new books.  I look forward to next week playing the one guy who is going to bring a book of his own, (he watches tons of the Arcane duels streams), and crushing him with playtest cards that aren't released yet!

But getting a functional SBB is incredibly important. And you are even smaller of a company then you were since letting Aaron go. The fact that players are growing on OCTGN shows that the game is loved, but it appears that AW does not support the players.

I am actually working with the players who update OCTGN to attempt to make it better, as well as fixing the sbb on our website. Improvements are coming and they are high on my priority list.

We are increasing our effort on MW at the moment, and you should see even more improvements (that I haven't mentioned) in the near future.
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Re: Spellbook Builder
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2017, 09:14:00 AM »
I'm the owner of one of the two fan based spellbook builders Tony mentioned.
I just posted an update that includes PvS and LG, read more at http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=17116.30

Cheers
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Re: Spellbook Builder
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2017, 07:44:17 AM »
And you are even smaller of a company then you were since letting Aaron go.
Is there an announcement of this somewhere? This is my first time hearing this. I really liked Aaron.

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Re: Spellbook Builder
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2017, 07:48:27 AM »
They have announced this to the playtesters.
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Re: Spellbook Builder
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2017, 07:58:23 AM »
Um, without Aaron, who is left?

My limited understanding of AW is:
- Bryan P. (Founder, head game designer and pres, but mostly working on non-MW stuff these days)
- Tony G. (Mostly business/marketing; replaced Scott "Toxiq" M.)
- Aaron B. (Lead designer of MW expansions since forever; pretty much the only person working on MW)
- Alfiya P. (customer service and making sure stuff gets done)

Without Aaron, who is left to develop future Mage Wars product?
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Re: Spellbook Builder
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2017, 08:06:48 AM »
I think they hired someone else for Mage Wars Academy design at some point, they'll probably just have him working on both Academy and Arena


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Re: Spellbook Builder
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2017, 10:07:56 AM »
I have noticed more and more that card previews are not working for the spell builder code in the forums. I understand that the website is being reworked  and that this includes the SBB, however it is very frustrating to look at another's book and then have to have octgn open to fully understand the nuisances they have built. Without maintenance this issue will compound as new sets are released. I know this is happening, but can the interfacing code also be looked to ensure that the two assets align.
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Re: Spellbook Builder
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2017, 10:12:20 AM »
I have noticed more and more that card previews are not working for the spell builder code in the forums. I understand that the website is being reworked  and that this includes the SBB, however it is very frustrating to look at another's book and then have to have octgn open to fully understand the nuisances they have built. Without maintenance this issue will compound as new sets are released. I know this is happening, but can the interfacing code also be looked to ensure that the two assets align.

The forum card previews won't be fixed until the official SBB/database is updated (if ever). Meanwhile, if you can't/don't want to use OCTGN )(like me), use THIS.
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Re: Spellbook Builder
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2017, 10:58:30 AM »
...it is very frustrating to look at another's book and then have to have octgn open to fully understand the nuisances they have built.
Funny slip of the tongue
I'm sure you meant "nuances". :)
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Re: Spellbook Builder
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2017, 03:08:47 PM »
...it is very frustrating to look at another's book and then have to have octgn open to fully understand the nuisances they have built.
Funny slip of the tongue
I'm sure you meant "nuances". :)

HAHAHAHAHAHA best auto-correct fail ever. It depends if they are my opponent or not. ;)
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