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Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« on: December 14, 2017, 08:59:41 PM »
Wanted some feed back please on this here deck, I wanted to run with an angel variant but was not sure if
 few buddies would be good or maybe some kind of swarm with temple.  I really wanted to do this with the priestess because of royal armor and her crown will give them all +2 armor. This is what i got so far.
Angels of HarlemA Priestess Stats Spellbookbuilt by the OCTGN SBBA Priestess Spellbookbuilt by the OCTGN SBB
Attack4 x Luminous Blast1 x Surging Wave1 x Acid BallConjuration1 x Temple of Meraveran1 x Pillar of Righteous Flame2 x Consecrated Ground1 x Hand of Bim-Shalla2 x TanglevineCreature4 x Guardian Angel1 x Cassiel, Shield of Bim-Shalla1 x Selesius, the East Wind1 x Royal ArmorerEnchantment2 x Bear Strength3 x Divine Reversal1 x Mind Shield1 x Armor Ward1 x Enchantment Transfusion2 x Healing Charm2 x Galvanize2 x Eye for an Eye1 x Healing Madrigal1 x Life Link2 x Nullify1 x Regrowth1 x Demonic Bloodlust1 x Brace YourselfEquipment2 x Resplendent Bow1 x Leather Chausses1 x Helm of Justice2 x Radiant Breastplate1 x Crown of Protection1 x Elemental Cloak1 x Enchanter's Ring1 x Leather Boots1 x Eagleclaw Boots1 x Leather Gloves1 x Mage Wand1 x Ring of Asyra1 x Dawnbreaker Ring1 x Gloves of SkillIncantation1 x Crumble2 x Dispel2 x Dissolve1 x Focused Strike1 x Force Push1 x Heal2 x Minor Heal1 x Remove Curse1 x Teleport1 x Mending Wave
Total cost: 118 pts

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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2017, 09:07:55 PM »
Wanted some feed back please on this here deck, I wanted to run with an angel variant but was not sure if
 few buddies would be good or maybe some kind of swarm with temple.  I really wanted to do this with the priestess because of royal armor and her crown will give them all +2 armor. This is what i got so far.
Angels of HarlemA Priestess Stats Spellbookbuilt by the OCTGN SBBA Priestess Spellbookbuilt by the OCTGN SBB
Attack4 x Luminous Blast1 x Surging Wave1 x Acid BallConjuration1 x Temple of Meraveran1 x Pillar of Righteous Flame2 x Consecrated Ground1 x Hand of Bim-Shalla2 x TanglevineCreature4 x Guardian Angel1 x Cassiel, Shield of Bim-Shalla1 x Selesius, the East Wind1 x Royal ArmorerEnchantment2 x Bear Strength3 x Divine Reversal1 x Mind Shield1 x Armor Ward1 x Enchantment Transfusion2 x Healing Charm2 x Galvanize2 x Eye for an Eye1 x Healing Madrigal1 x Life Link2 x Nullify1 x Regrowth1 x Demonic Bloodlust1 x Brace YourselfEquipment2 x Resplendent Bow1 x Leather Chausses1 x Helm of Justice2 x Radiant Breastplate1 x Crown of Protection1 x Elemental Cloak1 x Enchanter's Ring1 x Leather Boots1 x Eagleclaw Boots1 x Leather Gloves1 x Mage Wand1 x Ring of Asyra1 x Dawnbreaker Ring1 x Gloves of SkillIncantation1 x Crumble2 x Dispel2 x Dissolve1 x Focused Strike1 x Force Push1 x Heal2 x Minor Heal1 x Remove Curse1 x Teleport1 x Mending Wave
Total cost: 118 pts
Some things that stand out:
1. I don't think that you have enough offensive power. Sure you can have BS angels, but 2 dispels and essentially all of your dmg is gone. Add some knights imo. Honestly, I think with a buddy priestess, you need a forge or more offensive creatues. Angels just don't cut that.
2.You have a TON of equipment. I really doubt that you will find the actions to cast all of that.
3. I'm not sure if the armorer is worth it if you have to hardcast him.
That's what I notice at first glance. Not a bad first attempt I must say. Refine it and get back to us!
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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2017, 12:52:34 AM »
Guardian Angels are a defender, not attacker. Having four of them is almost certainly too many - what do you have in mind for them to defend?

I suggest getting rid of a couple of them and replacing them with either Knights as Reddicediaries suggests (Knights of Westlock with 5 armour are scary things) or perhaps Griffins if you want to keep the flying theme going.

And +5 for having too much equipment, especially without a battleforge.

On looking at this book I think you may want to consider changing from Priestess to Priest. You will be relying on the mage to do a lot of the damage dealing work, and generally speaking a Priest is better at that than a Priestess.

Of course, you will have the element of surprise if you tool up a Priestess and wade in, but you will not have enough damage dealing options to sustain an early assault.
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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2017, 01:03:54 AM »
Welcome to the forums! Glad you've posted a book! It looks interesting but here's some food for thought for ya.

Reds right, you don't have nearly enough offence to actually kill the other mage, mainly because GAs are great for guarding, which you should do often to keep them alive. That means you aren't attacking wirh them. Can't kill the enemy mage wirh counter attacks.
If you wanna rely on ranged attacks like a bow or attack spells to deal damage, you'd better have a hawkeye for your mage. That extra die adds up!
I know the priestess has awesome channelling you begin with but without ANY channelling generators (except for one discount ring) you will still find yourself out of mana very fast.
You've got 7 creatures, one of which costs over 20 mana, all of which yiu must full cast. You've got no open full actions to use that bow with. That's gonna be mana taxing especially when the vast majority of your creatures are over 10 mana. You're not gonna habe the time to play all those creatures and still move, attack, or cast any of those conjurations you're packing.
Galvanize is a waste with a priestess. You can just remove those conditions without the needed face down contingency. If you're counting on them buffing the angels keep I  mind that they only get hit about 5/8ths of the time did they are that much less likely to get conditions.
Radiant breastplate is an odd choice due to the high number of guard or imtercept creatures you have, meaning you won't be using the 2 mana guard much, so id rather a dragonscale hauberk, or another chest piece with an elemental defence.
You don't have enough swarm potential to use merraveren. Esp when mist of your creatures have defences.
Demonic bloodlust. I get what your looking to do, but thets cheaper and better ways to get 2 extra dice, without the drawback and huge sp tag. If you're splashing into dark with holy mages, poisoned blood is a much better choice.
You've got a massive assortment of Equipment here, but much of it doubles locations. 2 gloves boots. Amd helmets. Tgats gonna leave you with a lot of dead cards in your book.
More later if yout want. Sorry long day
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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2017, 08:16:18 AM »
i would note however that gw did extremely well using super buffed gas offensively in 2015. though his book had been designed specifically to do that.

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2017, 12:05:28 PM »
 You talking about gdeikhaus? Yeah they were designed to swap enchants bank and forth with transfusions, he'd need more buffs to beef out the angels a bit more.
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2017, 12:19:26 PM »
yep. he was very agressive with those angels.

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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2017, 08:05:50 AM »
I have been looking at and playing this and love the big angel girl, she can really put out the hurt.  I think about cutting some to add 2 grey angel or change deck alittle and run as priest.  Dose anyone think that maybe running little angels might be better? A swarm with crown and armour giving them plus 2 ac.

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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2017, 09:27:42 AM »
if you are having fun playing the angels go for it. I suspect they are a pain to deal with for opponents. watch out for an enemy gravikor. I would guess mana will be very tight most of the time because the creatures cost so much. so it may be difficult to get several into play at the same time.

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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2017, 02:00:16 PM »
I was wondering about broken wing angel and messenger of bim, u would not get heal from them tho, I only love the big wind angel the most, I could remove and change to add grey angels and remove at least one guardian, I think that priest with bow and with extra  armor on Angels and right buffs can really bring some heat down.

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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2017, 03:38:43 PM »
Welcome to the forums! My advice is to play the blazes out of this book and make it work with your style. A little more offense might help but do what's working for you.
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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2017, 10:33:48 PM »
Feel like I have too many equipment and enchants in this first build also, thoughts on that also?

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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2017, 03:00:36 PM »
Feel like I have too many equipment and enchants in this first build also, thoughts on that also?

I think you have far too much equipment without a Battleforge. You want to drop a lot, or more likely add a Forge in.

I doubt you need 2 Resplendant Bows?

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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2017, 10:10:34 AM »
I have to agree that you have too much equipment for a Priestess and too few creatures.  I tend to run 30-40 spell points worth of creatures with a Priestess so I have hitting power.

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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2017, 09:22:27 PM »
I have to agree that you have too much equipment for a Priestess and too few creatures.  I tend to run 30-40 spell points worth of creatures with a Priestess so I have hitting power.

Actually I would disagree here. You can run a book with few choice creatures and a lot of equipment. These types of Qrush books do however use Battle Forge. There is no right or wrong answer; just personal preference, player ability, and levels of power. A mid powered book piloted expertly can beat a tier 1 book played poorly.