October 16, 2018, 08:18:47 AM

Author Topic: Don't Give A Trunk Give Two  (Read 1031 times)

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Re: Don't Give A Trunk Give Two
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2018, 05:38:51 AM »
I will say this. Do not underestimate tanglevine. Much less force hold. A tanglevine will guarentee a single reaction probably 2 even from that many dice. Even as a pet it only rolls 6 dice against that vine and if you have to attack it twice it was already worth it.  They are mean for sure but they are slow and can't trample and attack without becoming fast.

Force Hold is a lvl 1 spell > Dispel Wand

The Elephant if Pet and I am in zone Rolls 5 + 2 (Conjuration) + 2 Pet.  9 Dice  Not a sure thing, but...

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Re: Don't Give A Trunk Give Two
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2018, 05:44:24 AM »
I will say this. Do not underestimate tanglevine. Much less force hold. A tanglevine will guarentee a single reaction probably 2 even from that many dice. Even as a pet it only rolls 6 dice against that vine and if you have to attack it twice it was already worth it.  They are mean for sure but they are slow and can't trample and attack without becoming fast.

You're forgetting the +2 the tusked one has against corporeal conjurations, so a 50:50 chance for a pet elephant on 8 dice to take a tanglevine in one go.

I really think the same strat might shine in a new light if you did it wth a warlock or a necromancer. Hear me out, thats a crazy high mana cost right? But if you rise again or reanimate it its only half cost. So even if you do eventually get both out at once you could potentially get 4X the use out of em. Still not sold? Well how about this! Once they are zombies, Zombie frenzy applies! So what? Not with it you say? Well zombie frenzy is currently the only way i know of to REMOVE the slow trait and replace it with fast. So now your zombie elephants are faster, and meaner than they ever were before and they can sprint the full 2 zones and attack for more dice. Possibly trampling an uninjured creature on the way. I know its rediculous, but damn that would be priceless.

But I love this. It is the sort of thing only a mad scientist would think of.

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Re: Don't Give A Trunk Give Two
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2018, 09:20:47 AM »
I have only one word, Quicksand.

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Re: Don't Give A Trunk Give Two
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2018, 10:03:23 AM »
Dude Quicksand hasn't been used in our area in 4 years.
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Re: Don't Give A Trunk Give Two
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2018, 10:17:32 AM »
I got 5 bucks says you don't use the Staff of Beasts once. It's nice but not for cost.

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Re: Don't Give A Trunk Give Two
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2018, 11:09:09 AM »
Is Trample treated like a normal melee attack?  Can it be dodge or improved by any buffs?

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Re: Don't Give A Trunk Give Two
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2018, 11:12:15 AM »
Is Trample treated like a normal melee attack?  Can it be dodge or improved by any buffs?

1) Trample is not a melee attack (I don't know WHY for the life of me they used the melee attack symbol :P).
2) A defense can be used against it (as long as that defense is able to be used against melee attacks..go figure)
3) A trample attack cannot be buffed in anyway.
4) Each trample attack can only be used once per round.
5) Trample attacks must respect guards.
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Re: Don't Give A Trunk Give Two
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2018, 11:37:10 AM »

1) Trample is not a melee attack (I don't know WHY for the life of me they used the melee attack symbol :P).
2) A defense can be used against it (as long as that defense is able to be used against melee attacks..go figure)
3) A trample attack cannot be buffed in anyway.
4) Each trample attack can only be used once per round.
5) Trample attacks must respect guards.

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Re: Don't Give A Trunk Give Two
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2018, 08:22:50 PM »
If your Trample has elusive does it still respect guards?

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Re: Don't Give A Trunk Give Two
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2018, 08:57:18 PM »
I do not believe so as it's not technically a melee attack.
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