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Arkdeniz

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Are Vine Markers ‘Objects’?
« on: April 27, 2018, 10:32:01 PM »
As it says in the title.

They are certainly living conjurations, but do they count as ‘objects’ for the purpose of calculating who benefits from Meredia’s Blessing?

The Codex entry for Object is not clear to me. It says conjurations are objects, but also suggests that only spells can be objects.

Thoughts?
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Re: Are Vine Markers ‘Objects’?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2018, 10:42:32 PM »
Vine markers are conjurations, and conjurations are objects, so... yes, vine markers are objects for all purposes.

What text in the Codex is bugging you? I suspect that there may have been a supposition that only spells could be conjurations when the entry was written.
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Re: Are Vine Markers ‘Objects’?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2018, 11:04:51 PM »
dave is correct here. they do count as living objects for determination. note, actually all permanents on the board are objects, including enchantments.

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Re: Are Vine Markers ‘Objects’?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2018, 11:26:31 PM »
Thanks for the answer. I thought this was the case, but had sudden doubts.

What text in the Codex is bugging you? I suspect that there may have been a supposition that only spells could be conjurations when the entry was written.

“Enchantments, equipment, creatures and conjurations are SPELLS which become objects in the game...”

Vines are not spells. Hence my confusion.
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Re: Are Vine Markers ‘Objects’?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2018, 12:17:02 PM »
Thanks for the answer. I thought this was the case, but had sudden doubts.

What text in the Codex is bugging you? I suspect that there may have been a supposition that only spells could be conjurations when the entry was written.

“Enchantments, equipment, creatures and conjurations are SPELLS which become objects in the game...”

Vines are not spells. Hence my confusion.

It is true that certain spells become objects, but it is also true that vines (which are not spells) are objects.

Note: Mages also are objects, but are not spells.
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