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Hydra regeneration as a zombie
« on: June 12, 2018, 03:34:53 AM »
Hi
Please explain. Hydra have regenerate 2 as a trait. If it will be summoned as a zombie will this trait be valid?
The same for any fast creatur. Zombie have slow trait. So this will be removed yes?
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Re: Hydra regeneration as a zombie
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2018, 04:56:12 AM »
Yes, the hydra still has regeneration.
Regeneration is treated as healing though.
And healing can only be applied to living objects.
This is also the reason why Dorseus can't heal zombies.

You're slightly wrong on the second one.
Neither the fast nor the slow are removed. Tge creature will have both traits. They effectively cancel each other out, but you don't lose a trait until it is specifically mentioned anywhere (Swamp/ZombieFrenzy/Victorian Griffin)

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Re: Hydra regeneration as a zombie
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2018, 05:14:52 AM »
Okay i see.
So zombie hydra can heal it's dmg caused when it was moved from garveyard.
Well fast works as i thought. It will no loger be fas, but alos slow trait will be canceled

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Re: Hydra regeneration as a zombie
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2018, 05:54:34 AM »
I think you missed a point. There is ONE, countem, one, zombie in this game that can heal itself at all, and nobody plays it.  Anything raised with rise again or the like has finite life and CANNOT  heal at all, in any way. So even though it doesn't lose the trait "regenerate 2" it still cannot recover any accrued damage ever.
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Re: Hydra regeneration as a zombie
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2018, 06:55:32 AM »
AA crystal clear now
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Re: Hydra regeneration as a zombie
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2018, 11:39:10 AM »
I think you missed a point. There is ONE, countem, one, zombie in this game that can heal itself at all, and nobody plays it.  Anything raised with rise again or the like has finite life and CANNOT  heal at all, in any way. So even though it doesn't lose the trait "regenerate 2" it still cannot recover any accrued damage ever.
Theres a zombie with reconstruct ability? Which one is that again?

Zombies cant heal ever. Not sure what zombie you're talking about.

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Re: Hydra regeneration as a zombie
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2018, 12:19:44 PM »
At least shaggoth-zora can grow and gain innate life that way ;)

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Re: Hydra regeneration as a zombie
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2018, 01:12:08 PM »
Unstable zombie
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Re: Hydra regeneration as a zombie
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2018, 11:12:23 PM »
regeneration is a healing effect. healing only works on living objects. that is why nonliving objects have a different way of getting "health" back. reassemble for skeletons. the aforementioned reconstruct for unstable zombie and devouring jelly as examples. and yes there are folks who play unstable zombie....

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Re: Hydra regeneration as a zombie
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2018, 01:19:02 PM »
I think you missed a point. There is ONE, countem, one, zombie in this game that can heal itself at all, and nobody plays it.  Anything raised with rise again or the like has finite life and CANNOT  heal at all, in any way. So even though it doesn't lose the trait "regenerate 2" it still cannot recover any accrued damage ever.

Incorrect. I have books with Unstable Zombie in.

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Re: Hydra regeneration as a zombie
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2018, 04:43:09 PM »
Correction. Unstable zombie is so expensive for what it does and its life total that it's very rare to see. In fact in my whole octgn career I've never seen one on.
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Re: Hydra regeneration as a zombie
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2018, 07:09:58 PM »
Correction. Unstable zombie is so expensive for what it does and its life total that it's very rare to see. In fact in my whole octgn career I've never seen one on.

I put three or four in my zombie book. It's my second favorite zombie after the brute. (I don't play on Octgn.)
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Re: Hydra regeneration as a zombie
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2018, 08:14:11 PM »
And Dave, i love ya buddy, but you should GET on octgn. Show us how those unstable zombies work out! Lol
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Re: Hydra regeneration as a zombie
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2018, 06:51:34 AM »
Correction. Unstable zombie is so expensive for what it does and its life total that it's very rare to see. In fact in my whole octgn career I've never seen one on.

I put three or four in my zombie book. It's my second favorite zombie after the brute. (I don't play on Octgn.)

+1 (except Venomous Zombie is my favorite)
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Re: Hydra regeneration as a zombie
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2018, 07:03:03 AM »
My midrange Necro deck has 1x Unstable Zombie for versatility. It doesn't have the power of Brute, and mostly Venemous and Plague are better for their niches, but it does get some play.

That said, I have a much more aggressive Brute squad book, and a much more controlling book, which are both better overall books than the mid-range.

Unstable is not so bad that it's almost unplayable like many creatures, but it's not strong.