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Invisible Realtor - Warlord/ Forcemaster
« on: September 02, 2019, 12:05:26 AM »
Invisble Realtor

A Warlord Spellbook

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Attack3 x Flying Side Kick1 x Fist of Iron2 x Hurl Boulder1 x Hurl RockConjuration1 x Gravikor1 x Ballista1 x Construction Yard1 x Barracks1 x Garrison Post2 x Wall of Earth1 x Mana Lotus1 x Freeze Weapon1 x Volcano1 x Meredia's Shrine1 x Mana ShardCreature1 x Goblin Alchemist3 x Goblin Builder4 x Goblin Legionnaire1 x Goblin Bomber1 x Slaknir, Goblin Chieftain1 x Harshforge KnightEnchantment1 x Regrowth1 x Akiro's Favor1 x Ballad of Courage1 x Form Ranks1 x Press the Attack4 x Lesser InvisibilityEquipment1 x Ring of Command1 x Strategist's Helm1 x Leather Vest1 x Leather Gloves1 x General's Signet Ring1 x Leather Chausses1 x Steadfast Boots2 x Ivarium HalberdIncantation3 x Dissolve1 x Rouse the Beast3 x Force Push1 x Force Wave1 x Siphon Energy1 x Minor Heal1 x Remove Curse1 x Upheaval1 x Teleport2 x Lesser Teleport1 x Seeking Dispel1 x Conquer2 x Dispel2 x Fizzle1 x Gear Up
Total cost: 120 pts


This is a fun idea I came up with.  Not sure how reliable it is, it may work out better with a forcemaster since the builders are familiars and can cast through the eye. Also extra channeling would help too.  But I chose the warlord since I am focusing on conjurations; I want to have construction yard available to me to get more benefit out of this play. 

T1: 19 mana
mana lotus in my zone and builder
end: 12 mana

T2: 21 mana
builder cast construction yard in starting zone, mage horizontally and cast barracks 2 zones over from the yard and guards or qc lesser invis on goblin.
end: 2 mana

T3: 10 mana, yard 2 mana, barracks 2 mana
deploy builder
builder run to middle, qc enchant builder that moved with lesser invisibility, move and cast ring of command
end: 2 mana

T4: 12 mana, yard 4 mana, barracks 2 mana
no deploy
qc gear up for 3x leather, either of the goblins cast a wall for 1 if needed or moves to guard or attack, mage enchant second builder with lesser invisibility.
end 2 if I cast a wall, 3 if I did not.


I kept playing with ideas for the first 2 turns to get the most conjurations our as fast as possible and I forgot what I played, mana counts were off and I got lost from there looking at turns 3 and 4.....I had 3  conjurations and a builder out t2. shard and goblin, barracks and yard and guard with mage, more or less

Another option is
T1: 19 mana
lotus and shard in starting corner
end 13

T2: 23 mana
goblin and yard in starting zone
end 11

T3 22 mana, 1 on yard
move 1 cast barracks, builder moves to a zone with no conjurations and guards, qc signet ring
end 8


This is the idea, it is really slow, I know, and mana is very tight.
I do have a lot of low cost spells
gear up, fizzle, seeking dispel, lesser tele, force push, rouse, all equipment, most conjurations and attack spells, most creatures, and battle orders (which are free with the ring). These are mostly here to help offset all of the actions and conjurations.

The overall idea is to have slaknir out to make the builders elusive while they are not invisible and to help with the legionnaires getting across the map faster.  Or push the bomber to blow something up? The builders card states that it can cast any corporeal conjuration (unlike the construction yard which may only cast corporal war conjurations or earth walls). This means that the builders can play volcanos, freeze weapon, meridia's shine, mana lotus, etc which makes the book really fun, in theory.
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Re: Invisible Realtor - Warlord
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2019, 08:20:22 AM »
regarding working via fm. the builders placing a conjuration is a full action, and the eye only allows quick spells. I think this could be more interesting if you added a few more conjurations and went more full on zone denial as an additional strategy. but to make it more reliable, seems like you would need a stronger threat on the board to distract the opponent long enough to have the builders do their thing. mana of course would be a major concern. it may be that the threat would have to be your mage to conserve mana for the conjuration game. and that brings on its own issues.

good luck with the build and look forward to seeing some matches with it. or even better playing against it some time.


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Re: Invisible Realtor - Warlord
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2019, 08:39:58 AM »
Yeah, the balance between keeping up the threats (creatures and attacks) and conjurations is what a big struggle is. I could offset that with attack conjurations like the alluring orchid, corrosive plant (cannot remember the name), pillar of light etc. Academy conjurations definitely make this build more viable since they are cheaper and are not zone exclusive. The zone exclusive part is what makes this hard.

I'll keep updates in the book posted as I plates it
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Re: Invisible Realtor - Warlord
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2019, 09:04:21 AM »
I believe the builder can use the eye.

The spell he casts is a quick spell which meets the requirement of the eye.
That he spends a full action on it to cast a quick spell shouldn’t matter I think.

Curious to hear what other thinks about this.

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Re: Invisible Realtor - Warlord
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2019, 11:10:17 AM »
I believe the builder can use the eye.

The spell he casts is a quick spell which meets the requirement of the eye.
That he spends a full action on it to cast a quick spell shouldn’t matter I think.

Curious to hear what other thinks about this.

That was my understanding.
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Re: Invisible Realtor - Warlord
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2019, 09:20:43 PM »
hmm. perhaps you are right. it is on the line I think. but for the conjuration game, I was suggesting specifically zone exclusives for zone denial as an adjunct strategy. looking forward to seeing it in practice.

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Re: Invisible Realtor - Warlord/ Forcemaster
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2019, 02:32:12 PM »
Invisible Realtor
Forcemaster
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Attack1 x Telekinetic BurstConjuration2 x Mind's Eye1 x Volcano1 x Pillar of Righteous Flame1 x Nightshade Lotus1 x Corrosive Orchid1 x Mangler Caltrops1 x Temple of Light1 x Healing Tree1 x Mana Lotus1 x Freeze Weapon1 x Alluring Orchid1 x Battle Forge1 x Temple of the Dawnbreaker1 x Mana Flower1 x Etherian Lifetree1 x Garrison Post1 x Enchanter's Wardstone1 x Hand of Bim-ShallaCreature1 x Psionic Scarab1 x Thoughtspore3 x Goblin BuilderEnchantment1 x Desperate Focus2 x Confusion2 x Mind Seize5 x Lesser Invisibility1 x Curse of Servitude1 x Force Shield2 x Slumber1 x Mass Cowardice2 x Terrifying Visage1 x RegrowthEquipment1 x Force Armor1 x Leather Gloves1 x Leather Boots1 x Regrowth Belt1 x Dampening Cloak1 x Galvitar, Force Blade1 x Illusory Leggings2 x Headdress of StasisIncantation1 x Remove Curse1 x Purify1 x Lesser Teleport1 x Dispel2 x Dissolve2 x Force Push1 x Force Wave
Total cost: 120 pts


This is my working version of the Forcemaster book.

The headress of stasis works great with lesser invis, i can cast through the eye if I need to, and so can the builders which can be spawned from the garrison post. I had more creatures in but I will never have the mana or actions.

I have 6 attack conjurations and 8 zone exclusive.

Forcewave can help all of your invisible builders to another zone, Force armor and a bunch of leather helps!

Hopefully this book will function like a giant cluster f*** in the best way possible!
Should I take out conjurations and ignore the mage while my creatures attack themselves and a volcano just came out of nowhere!?
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Should I take out the mage and get overrun with conjurations keeping him alive and killing me!?

That's the hope anyway lol

Let me know what you guys think.
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Re: Invisible Realtor - Warlord/ Forcemaster
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2019, 05:40:19 PM »
I think you will have issues against a basic druid and perhaps holy. but the wackiness should be entertaining.

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Re: Invisible Realtor - Warlord/ Forcemaster
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2019, 09:24:16 PM »
I guess I'm mostly curious about whether there is enough mana available to do what you want it to do. Please do let us know how it plays out.
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