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FiF: Harshforge Plate
« on: May 05, 2014, 11:49:18 AM »


Today's preview.  Seems like a game changer  ;)
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Re: FiF: Harshforge Plate
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2014, 11:53:32 AM »
Preview article is here http://www.arcanewonders.com/arcane-wonders/forged-in-fire-preview-harshforge-plate

Pretty awesome piece of equipment.

Got a post on my blog about it  -->Here<--.
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Re: FiF: Harshforge Plate
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2014, 12:17:47 PM »
Amazing armor.
It hurts warlock unless they use an Enchantment Transfusion.

Combined with Armor Ward it protect awesomely other equipment.

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Re: FiF: Harshforge Plate
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2014, 12:19:22 PM »
It just seems so strong.  It probably would've been strong even if it was just 1 extra mana. 

No more teleporting warlords into fatties or dumping a ton of curses on.  I thought the monolith was going to do work but this armor is just ridiculous.
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Re: FiF: Harshforge Plate
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2014, 12:24:50 PM »
It just seems so strong.  It probably would've been strong even if it was just 1 extra mana. 

No more teleporting warlords into fatties or dumping a ton of curses on.  I thought the monolith was going to do work but this armor is just ridiculous.

I don't think it's ridiculous. Yes, it will reduce the amount of teleporting and curse stacking a bit, but won't eliminate them altogether. You'll just have to pick and choose what curses to place on them and when the moment is best to teleport them. If you want to teleport them, you'll be able to find the 2 extra mana to do so. You'll just have to plan it a bit more carefully.

It's very thematic too. Warlords should be resistant to magic, especially the Dwarven one. Right now only the two Warlords can use it and they're the ones that needed the biggest boost in power anyway.
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Re: FiF: Harshforge Plate
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2014, 12:33:21 PM »
It looks great. The release date can't come soon enough.

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Re: FiF: Harshforge Plate
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2014, 12:49:39 PM »
This + Armor Ward.  :)

Wage war. Levy taxes. Seems right to me.

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Re: FiF: Harshforge Plate
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2014, 12:54:42 PM »
It just seems so strong.  It probably would've been strong even if it was just 1 extra mana. 

No more teleporting warlords into fatties or dumping a ton of curses on.  I thought the monolith was going to do work but this armor is just ridiculous.

I don't think it's ridiculous. Yes, it will reduce the amount of teleporting and curse stacking a bit, but won't eliminate them altogether. You'll just have to pick and choose what curses to place on them and when the moment is best to teleport them. If you want to teleport them, you'll be able to find the 2 extra mana to do so. You'll just have to plan it a bit more carefully.

It's very thematic too. Warlords should be resistant to magic, especially the Dwarven one. Right now only the two Warlords can use it and they're the ones that needed the biggest boost in power anyway.

Well, I just meant ridiculous in the sense of how effective it seems to be in dealing with the Warlord's main issues; didn't mean it was overpowered or anything.

You're probably right it won't end curse stacking or teleporting, but together with the monolith is going to make both of those things much harder.  Purify does pretty well against curse stacking too so that's a pretty effective bunch of cards to deal with it.

It probably should've came out in FM vs Warlord.  It makes total thematic sense for a mage that hates magic to express that hatred in card form, not just have what amounts to a weakness to it.
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Re: FiF: Harshforge Plate
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2014, 12:59:10 PM »
I love how it protects itself from Dissolve/Explode/Steal Equipment.

This is the first War spell that makes me wish Paladin is trained in War 2.

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Re: FiF: Harshforge Plate
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2014, 12:59:37 PM »
Wait till you see the other Harshforge stuff we have planned, in the coming sets.  :-X
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Re: FiF: Harshforge Plate
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2014, 01:07:14 PM »
Wait till you see the other Harshforge stuff we have planned, in the coming sets.  :-X

No more teasing us! D=

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Re: FiF: Harshforge Plate
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2014, 01:13:14 PM »
 ;) Whatever are you implying?  ;) :P
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Re: FiF: Harshforge Plate
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2014, 01:28:56 PM »

Well, I just meant ridiculous in the sense of how effective it seems to be in dealing with the Warlord's main issues; didn't mean it was overpowered or anything.

You're probably right it won't end curse stacking or teleporting, but together with the monolith is going to make both of those things much harder.  Purify does pretty well against curse stacking too so that's a pretty effective bunch of cards to deal with it.

It probably should've came out in FM vs Warlord.  It makes total thematic sense for a mage that hates magic to express that hatred in card form, not just have what amounts to a weakness to it.

Ah, misunderstood you. My bad :)

Wait till you see the other Harshforge stuff we have planned, in the coming sets.  :-X

Oh man. So many possibilities xD I really hope we get something like ACG's "Magisbane, the Purifier" if we don't get an alternative to dispel that isn't from the Arcane School.




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Re: FiF: Harshforge Plate
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2014, 01:36:19 PM »
Wait till you see the other Harshforge stuff we have planned, in the coming sets.  :-X

No more teasing us! D=
Finally I can talk about all the layers of protection the Runes + Armor + the Tough -2 (+ Ward + Cloak) and the +2 mana to target him all stack together. The flame -2 of the Cloak and Tough -2 make it hard (but not impossible) to land effects like Burns from the Warlock. Her best bet is to land them on another creature and move them. She also would want to place. Lightning / Corrode  / Light all take a hit from the Tough -2 from the dwarf, cursing is harder. The one thing I really haven't got the chance to do is run him in a Mana Denial type book, I think that he will end up being a great control based play going forward.

The walking though the Wall bit with the Dwarf actually happened during one my playtesting games and it ended with her death that round from a Burn given to her by her very own wall :).
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Re: FiF: Harshforge Plate
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2014, 01:41:11 PM »



That sword would be OP as you currently have it. It would need to be more expensive (mana + spellpoints) and have higher upkeep at least.