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Re: ADMW Open - OCTGN Tournament!
« Reply #210 on: April 30, 2016, 03:31:25 PM »
Hey remember were not using this in this tournament :P

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Re: ADMW Open - OCTGN Tournament!
« Reply #211 on: April 30, 2016, 05:52:37 PM »
My thoughts are a number of different tie breakers as in chess or MTG:

1) Strength of schedule
2) The result of the direct encounter(s) between the players (if any)
3) Greater number of wins

4) Just-Burg Scoring

To calculate this, sum the running score for each round. For example, if a player has (in order) a win, loss, win, draw, and a loss; his round-by-round score will be 1, 1, 2, 2˝, 2˝. The sum of these numbers is 9. This system places more weight on games won in the early rounds and the least weight on games won in the final rounds. The rationale for this system is that a player who scored well early in the tournament has most likely faced tougher opponents in later rounds and should therefore be favoured over a player who scored poorly in the start before subsequently scoring points against weaker opponents.

5) Sonneborn-Berger (linked before)
6) Greatest number of wins against a Wizard

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Re: ADMW Open - OCTGN Tournament!
« Reply #212 on: April 30, 2016, 06:39:09 PM »
1) what you mean with strength of schedule
2) they are tied
3) they are tied
4) makes no sense if everyone played everyone in agroup
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Re: ADMW Open - OCTGN Tournament!
« Reply #213 on: May 01, 2016, 01:23:26 AM »
Still there is the need to come up with sth. to get a clear situation.

1. drawing lots

2. Sonneborn Berger (discussed above) makes most sense if you need a non-random decision asap.

3. If one player doesn't have an interest to leave group stage one might also have  a decider match between the other two (only allowing mages already played for example).

4. very time consuming options

Hey remember were not using this in this tournament :P
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Re: ADMW Open - OCTGN Tournament!
« Reply #214 on: May 01, 2016, 02:59:23 AM »
or a quiz like thunderdome G had the option :D

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Re: ADMW Open - OCTGN Tournament!
« Reply #215 on: May 01, 2016, 07:33:08 AM »
Or a game of Domination
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Re: ADMW Open - OCTGN Tournament!
« Reply #216 on: May 01, 2016, 07:56:57 AM »
problem with extra games are like now when you have 3 people tied, you need 3 matches and still have a good chance of a new draw

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Re: ADMW Open - OCTGN Tournament!
« Reply #217 on: May 01, 2016, 08:16:25 AM »
problem with extra games are like now when you have 3 people tied, you need 3 matches and still have a good chance of a new draw
That's why I proposed Domination. It can be 3p game with a single winner.
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Re: ADMW Open - OCTGN Tournament!
« Reply #218 on: May 01, 2016, 08:28:57 AM »
problem with extra games are like now when you have 3 people tied, you need 3 matches and still have a good chance of a new draw
That's why I proposed Domination. It can be 3p game with a single winner.
in this case yes, but it can also happen that 3 players will be tied for 2 places, than two can just agree this is the strongest so get that one out as they dont want the stronger one in final stage.

I feel the tourneys should get a general tiebreaker decission

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Re: ADMW Open - OCTGN Tournament!
« Reply #219 on: May 01, 2016, 02:03:04 PM »
Strength of Schedule is a measurement of the difficulty a player had getting through the tournament that is based on the win-loss records of their opponents. If one player played opponents that recorded a larger number of wins than another would be considered to have a stronger strength of schedule.

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Re: ADMW Open - OCTGN Tournament!
« Reply #220 on: May 01, 2016, 03:43:52 PM »
Strength of Schedule is a measurement of the difficulty a player had getting through the tournament that is based on the win-loss records of their opponents. If one player played opponents that recorded a larger number of wins than another would be considered to have a stronger strength of schedule.
But everyone played against everyone in our group.
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Re: ADMW Open - OCTGN Tournament!
« Reply #221 on: May 02, 2016, 12:57:36 PM »
Alright guys! I have updated the standings!

I looked over all the data and determined LeggyBlonde will be advancing to the next stage. At this point forward I wish everyone luck in the next stage! A reminder is that in this stage you will need a judge to be there for the game (see the front of this thread to find judges). Also this will be formal games so the matches will be timed and all other rules will be in place and enforced more officially. The next stage is single round elimination so good luck to everyone. I am really look forward to seeing some amazing players in the arena!
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Re: ADMW Open - OCTGN Tournament!
« Reply #222 on: May 02, 2016, 05:21:54 PM »
Alright guys! I have updated the standings!

I looked over all the data and determined LeggyBlonde will be advancing to the next stage. At this point forward I wish everyone luck in the next stage! A reminder is that in this stage you will need a judge to be there for the game (see the front of this thread to find judges). Also this will be formal games so the matches will be timed and all other rules will be in place and enforced more officially. The next stage is single round elimination so good luck to everyone. I am really look forward to seeing some amazing players in the arena!
Congrats to leggybl0nde for advancing and good luck to all players in the second stage. I expect to see some really nice battles there :)
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Re: ADMW Open - OCTGN Tournament!
« Reply #223 on: May 02, 2016, 05:47:31 PM »
Was not expecting to make it to the next round!!  Very grateful to have the opportunity to play round 2 against biblofilter and test out another mage.  Everyone in my group was a blast to play with and performed well. Look forward to seeing them again in the arena. I have learned quite a bit from these games so thanks.

 
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Re: ADMW Open - OCTGN Tournament!
« Reply #224 on: May 03, 2016, 05:48:53 AM »
of course the rules are set, but 5minutes planning is quite long, but in upkeep you will have troubles as it has to be gone fast over it. But there are decissions like voltaric shield, and upkeep payments done there

In all games people decide on that in planning, but it is in upkeep. I want to know what you do about it. (same with lifebond stuff). I honestly would find it quite bad if i have to stress on that decission and then have 4 out of 5minutes to sit around doing nothing.

the main point about those things happening in upkeep is that the will influence the other players planning maybe