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Re: Paladin vs Siren Spoilers
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2016, 08:43:02 pm »
That is crazy,  your depiction is exactly what i was thinking or imagining for a holy light wall, even down to the high extension dealing damaging flying units.   Sounds great. 
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Re: Paladin vs Siren Spoilers
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2016, 10:19:52 pm »
I could see Cassiel being very useful for healing Ehren from the Priestess Academy set.

Also she's flying! That eliminates a lot of ways that normal familiars get mauled
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Re: Paladin vs Siren Spoilers
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2016, 12:14:40 am »
This is perfect! Very very excited!

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Re: Paladin vs Siren Spoilers
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2016, 02:10:12 am »
Cassie and all those possibilites will definetly benefit Priest and Priestess! I cant wait for more Academy Priestess spoiler and all those possible new spells from PvS!
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Re: Paladin vs Siren Spoilers
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2016, 05:05:58 am »
Now I want to see mage trained in both Holy and Nature.
Also she's flying! That eliminates a lot of ways that normal familiars get mauled
Which familiars from schools other than War aren't flying?
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Re: Paladin vs Siren Spoilers
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2016, 05:15:47 am »
sersiryx

Now I want to see mage trained in both Holy and Nature.
Also she's flying! That eliminates a lot of ways that normal familiars get mauled
Which familiars from schools other than War aren't flying?

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Re: Paladin vs Siren Spoilers
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2016, 05:24:42 am »
All those that are sightseeing Gravikor? :)
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Re: Paladin vs Siren Spoilers
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2016, 08:10:47 am »
sersiryx

Now I want to see mage trained in both Holy and Nature.
Also she's flying! That eliminates a lot of ways that normal familiars get mauled
Which familiars from schools other than War aren't flying?

The previously existing flying ones include:
- [mwcard=MW1C13]Fellella, Pixie Familiar[/mwcard]
- [mwcard=MW1C21]Huginn, Raven Familiar[/mwcard]
- [mwcard=FWC16]Thoughtspore[/mwcard]

Those without flying include:
- [mwcard=FWC04]Goblin Builder[/mwcard]
- [mwcard=MWSTX2FFC07]Gurmash, Orc Seargeant[/mwcard]
- [mwcard=FWQ09]Sectarus, Dark Rune Sword[/mwcard]
- [mwcard=MWSTX2FFC11]Sersiryx, Imp Familiar[/mwcard]
- [mwcard=MWSTX1CKJ02]Wizard's Tower[/mwcard]

Honourable mentions to [mwcard=DNJ02]Corrosive Orchid[/mwcard] and [mwcard=DNJ06]Nightshade Lotus[/mwcard], which aren't Familiars but each can perform attacks and each effectively get to cast a spell once (Dissolve and Sleep, respectively).  And [mwcard=MWBG1C04]Slaknir, Goblin Chieftain[/mwcard], who in principle can cast Force Push every round.  And [mwcard=MW1J24]Temple of Light[/mwcard] and [mwcard=FWJ01]Akiro's Hammer[/mwcard], which can make ranged attacks that feel a bit like a Familiar (e.g. like a less flexible Wizard's Tower).  I guess [mwcard=DNC17]Tataree[/mwcard] and [mwcard=DNC01]Acolyte of the Bog Queen[/mwcard] and some others feel a bit like a Familiar, too, so it's a bit of a grey area with these honourable mentions. In fact, any creature with a ranged attack, especially one with an effect die roll, like [mwcard=MWSTX2FFC06]Goblin Alchemist[/mwcard] or [mwcard=MW1C18]Gorgon Archer[/mwcard] or [mwcard=MW1C16]Flaming Hellion[/mwcard] or [mwcard=DNC21]Thornlasher[/mwcard], feels a bit like a Familiar that slings attack spells for free, just without as many options (e.g. no planning phase).
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Re: Paladin vs Siren Spoilers
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2016, 01:06:56 pm »
just thought about this.  We have not seen a holy Wall conjuration yet.  Maybe we will see one?!!?

I'm hoping for:

Wall of Holy Light.  Incorporeal, with passage attack dealing extra damage to undead and/or Dark creatures.  Possibly deals burn and/or daze/stun.  Infinitely high (e.g. flying doesn't bypass the wall).

Sound like it could take a while (3 action?) to concur with eagle claw boots...

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Re: Paladin vs Siren Spoilers
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2016, 02:00:09 pm »
Eagleclaw Boots can only climb over Corporeal walls.
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Re: Paladin vs Siren Spoilers
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2016, 02:55:52 pm »
I'm a big fan of Cassiel, I think there's a number of good roles she can fill. She's not such an obvious target that an enemy is immediately going to try and get rid of her like say a Wizard Tower or maybe in Cervere The Forrest Shadow.

I'm also VERY excited that Temple High Guards are going to be legal. I mean oh my stars and garters what an asset these guys have been in local games I've played. Holy has a reputation of being a tough nut to crack in terms of defense and this is just going to reinforce that.
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Re: Paladin vs Siren Spoilers
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2016, 03:28:31 pm »
Eagleclaw Boots can only climb over Corporeal walls.

Also, there isn't much point to climbing a wall with the Passage Attacks trait, since it attacks you anyways (before you move).  So... might as well just walk through it, which doesn't use up your Full Action - e.g. can still use a quick-action when you get to the other side, assuming you don't get struck by a condition that says otherwise.

Also, not sure if a Wall of Holy Light should block LoS or not.
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Re: Paladin vs Siren Spoilers
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2016, 03:36:16 pm »
Is there an enchantment that's been spoiled or a piece of equipment that a holy mage can use that will allow them at the end of their action phase or at some point to put a creature on guard. I know the beastmaster has the Cloak and I know there's a Defend incantation but I'm trying to remember if I've seen anything that will allow me to both pray with the cleric in the early stages of a match while she builds up mana and then put her on guard behind a wall so she's not susceptible to ranged attacks.

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Re: Paladin vs Siren Spoilers
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2016, 04:52:44 pm »
There's always Defend. It's an incantation and takes an action but still.
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Re: Paladin vs Siren Spoilers
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2016, 07:24:23 pm »
I think you'll get better mileage out of her by combining her with Ehren or by preemptively protecting and banking heals (healing charm).  I think I'd prefer to pray with the cheaper clerics like disciple of radiance or asyran cleric.
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