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Re: Forcemaster Attack!
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2016, 07:52:07 AM »
I'm mainly talking about using it to probe for arcane wards.
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Re: Forcemaster Attack!
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2016, 07:52:34 AM »
It also would be hillarious if they dispel mind control and I transfuse to a new target.
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Re: Forcemaster Attack!
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2016, 07:59:05 AM »
It also would be hillarious if they dispel mind control and I transfuse to a new target.
You can't do that.
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Re: Forcemaster Attack!
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2016, 08:01:57 AM »
It also would be hillarious if they dispel mind control and I transfuse to a new target.
You can't do that.
Hmm, I'm probubly wrong. Is there something specific about mind control.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2016, 08:41:33 AM by Reddicediaries »
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Re: Forcemaster Attack!
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2016, 08:37:21 AM »
Forcefield has only one viable target: Forcemaster.  So you can't transfuse that either.
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Re: Forcemaster Attack!
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2016, 08:41:53 AM »
Why can't you transfuse mind control?
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Re: Forcemaster Attack!
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2016, 09:20:26 AM »
Why can't you transfuse mind control?

Because the card text of mind control says you can't, at least not once it's revealed.


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Re: Forcemaster Attack!
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2016, 01:44:27 AM »
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Is there any particular reason why you don't export your spellbooks formatted for the forum?
It would make it a lot easier to comment on the books if it was possible to look at the spell cards...

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Re: Forcemaster Attack!
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2016, 06:45:12 PM »
The book is much more flexible now and can switch attack vectors fairly well. The only thing I'm really concerned about is lots of healing or crazy lifegain priestess. Thoughts?

[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]Flexilbe Forcemaster![/spellbookname]
[mage]A Forcemaster Spellbook[/mage]
[mage]built by the OCTGN SBB[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKA01]1 x Surging Wave[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNA01]1 x Acid Ball[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWA05]3 x Invisible Fist[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWA02]2 x Force Hammer[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1J12]1 x Mana Crystal[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1C26]1 x Necropian Vampiress[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWE05]2 x Forcefield[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E36]1 x Rhino Hide[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE03]1 x Falcon Precision[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E28]1 x Mongoose Agility[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E17]1 x Force Orb[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E31]1 x Poisoned Blood[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01E02]4 x Arcane Ward[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE04]2 x Force Crush[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E24]2 x Magebane[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE07]2 x Mind Control[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE01]2 x Charm[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE04]1 x Brace Yourself[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWPROMO17]1 x Critical Strike[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E01]1 x Bear Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E10]1 x Decoy[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWA01Q04]1 x Leather Chausses[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ04]1 x Galvitar, Force Blade[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ01]1 x Dancing Scimitar[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ07]1 x Psi-Orb[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWPROMO47]1 x Leviathan Scale Armor[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1I28]1 x Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I07]3 x Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I26]1 x Sleep[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I06]3 x Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI13]1 x Seeking Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I20]1 x Purify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I21]1 x Purge Magic[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI14]1 x Heal[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]
« Last Edit: July 29, 2016, 08:12:49 AM by Reddicediaries »
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Re: Flexible Forcemaster
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2016, 12:59:58 AM »
You're going to find yourself massively short on actions.
Play it a couple of times and you'll see for yourself.

Cards I see missing for this type of build imo : Battle Forge, Gauntlets of Strength, Hand of Bim Shalla, Thoughtspore, Wall of Thorns, Force Push.

I'm also not sold on Force Crush :
9 mana to put it on the enemy mage plus 4 mana upkeep every round that's like 29 mana to do a measly 10 damage over the course of 5 rounds and presumably you're planning to put an Arcane Ward on it adding another 2 mana to the cost.

All of which can be countered with a simple Regrowth or Regrowth Belt for 5/6 mana.

The upkeep cost meanwhile is going to cripple you entirely reducing your effective channeling from 10 to a net 6.
Sure you have a Psi-Orb to reduce the upkeep cost but that one in itself costs another 7 mana too.

It's not only life gaining Priestesses you should be worried about, you may easily add any stationary, Meditating, mages like a Necromancer or Druid, a Cursing Warlock or Firethrowing Firelock to that list, not to mention any type of Swarming Beastmaster.

The biggest problem with your book imo is that it is not focused enough.
There's no real killer strategy imo.
It does a bit of different things but nothing good enough to be a real threat to a well designed book.

I suggest you retrack and design a good 5 round (ideal) opening for your mage, then decide if that opening is strong enough to put the other mage on its heels.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2016, 05:33:11 AM by Borg »
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Re: Flexible Forcemaster
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2016, 08:01:27 AM »
Well, Borg, swarms shouldn't be much of a problem as I can attacks 4 creatures per turn with galvitar scimitar and invisible fist. I also have a lot of ways to reduce opponents actions, sleep, charm, mind control etc.
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Re: Flexible Forcemaster
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2016, 10:33:34 AM »
Necromancer and any other non-living strategies are going to be tough when your only buddy option is a Vampiress.  I ran into that problem once and switched her out for another option.

I can't imagine running a Forcemaster with no walls, no Suppression Orb or Mordok's Obelisk (to punish swarms), no Battle Forge, no Thoughtspore, no Tanglevine, no Force Hold (although you do have the much pricier Force Crush), only one Teleport / no Force Push / no Repulse / no Force Wave / no Force Bash / no Mage Wand (to attempt to get more than one use out of your only Teleport), etc.  If going that heavy/dependent on Enchantments, I'd at least have Enchanter's Wardstone to prevent a Wand of Dispel from wrecking your "one-trick pony Forcemaster."

OK, I'm being a little harsh, but I don't see the "flexibility" in this Forcemaster.  It's all about having lots of enchantments and using Arcane Ward to keep you from losing stuff, and that's about it.  Once you lose your Scimitar (and you will eventually; Arcane Ward doesn't stop Dissolve), you're going to find yourself in a world of trouble.
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Re: Flexible Forcemaster
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2016, 10:40:43 AM »
Well the main point of the book is NOT to use lots of enchantments. It's to reduce oppoenents actions/ convert them to my side. Also, SBP are really tough, so removing and adding things is not easy.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2016, 10:43:35 AM by Reddicediaries »
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Re: Flexible Forcemaster
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2016, 10:59:20 AM »
 Thoughts?

[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]Flexible Forcemaster![/spellbookname]
[mage]A Forcemaster Spellbook[/mage]
[mage]built by the OCTGN SBB[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=DNA01]1 x Acid Ball[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWA05]2 x Invisible Fist[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWA02]1 x Force Hammer[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1A13]1 x Thunderbolt[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1J16]1 x Mordok's Obelisk[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J21]1 x Suppression Orb[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKJ01]1 x Enchanter's Wardstone[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J14]1 x Mana Syphon[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J19]1 x Deathlock[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWE05]2 x Forcefield[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE03]1 x Falcon Precision[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E28]1 x Mongoose Agility[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E31]1 x Poisoned Blood[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01E02]3 x Arcane Ward[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE04]3 x Force Crush[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E24]2 x Magebane[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE07]1 x Mind Control[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE01]1 x Charm[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E29]1 x Nullify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E10]1 x Decoy[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE07]1 x Rust[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWBD1E01]1 x Astral Anchor[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKE04]1 x Enchantment Transfusion[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWQ04]1 x Galvitar, Force Blade[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ01]1 x Dancing Scimitar[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q19]1 x Mage Wand[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q08]1 x Elemental Wand[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1I28]1 x Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I07]2 x Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I26]1 x Sleep[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I06]3 x Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI13]1 x Seeking Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I20]1 x Purify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I21]1 x Purge Magic[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI14]1 x Heal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I15]1 x Knockdown[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]
« Last Edit: July 29, 2016, 01:24:00 PM by Reddicediaries »
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Re: Flexible Forcemaster
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2016, 01:29:39 PM »
Seriously, Red ???
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