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For Honor
« on: March 15, 2017, 02:47:22 PM »
I thought I would jump on the Paladin train so I made a book with knights.

I am trying to not use cassiel or a battle forge atm but that could very well change.

[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]For Honor[/spellbookname]
[mage]A Paladin Spellbook[/mage]
[mage]built by the OCTGN SBB[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSA01]2 x Luminous Blast[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSJ06]1 x Pillar of Righteous Flame[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J09]1 x Temple of the Dawnbreaker[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSJ05]1 x Malakai's Basilica[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J23]1 x Temple of Asyra[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSJ02]2 x Consecrated Ground[/mwcard]
[mwcard=LG01J02]1 x Ballista[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSC07]2 x Dawnbreaker's Initiate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1C22]2 x Knight of Westlock[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1C06]1 x Brogan Bloodstone[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFC01]1 x Asyran Defender[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSC20]1 x Noble Vanguard[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSC14]1 x Knight of the Red Helm[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWAPRC10]1 x White Cloak Knight[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWAPRC08]1 x Temple Sentry[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWAPRC01]1 x Aurora Lucere, Dawnbreaker's Chosen[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSC10]1 x Dorseus, Stallion of Westlock[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE02]1 x Akiro's Favor[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE04]1 x Brace Yourself[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E33]1 x Retaliate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=LG01E03]1 x Critical Strike[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKE01]1 x Armor Ward[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E05]1 x Cheetah Speed[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E01]1 x Bear Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E13]1 x Eagle Wings[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01E04]2 x Divine Reversal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E12]1 x Divine Protection[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKE03]1 x Healing Charm[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE03]1 x Chant of Rage[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE09]1 x Life Link[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE06]1 x Healing Madrigal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE05]2 x Eye for an Eye[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE08]2 x Knight's Courage[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE11]1 x Song of Love[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E29]1 x Nullify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E32]1 x Regrowth[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSQ11]1 x Signet of the Dawnbreaker[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q27]1 x Dawnbreaker Ring[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ06]1 x Paladin's Cloak[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ07]2 x Radiant Breastplate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ02]1 x Dawn's Bastion[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ06]1 x Morning Star[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ13]1 x Sword of Radiance[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ01]2 x Champion's Gauntlets[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01Q04]1 x Leather Chausses[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ04]1 x Reflex Boots[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1I02]2 x Battle Fury[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI06]1 x Overextend[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I12]1 x Force Push[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI12]3 x Minor Heal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI04]2 x Martyr's Restoration[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWAPRI05]1 x Remove Curse[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I20]2 x Purify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI03]1 x Lesser Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I28]1 x Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI02]1 x Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFI03]1 x Disarm[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI01]2 x Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI07]1 x Smite[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I24]1 x Seeking Dispel[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]

T1: cleric, fd cheetah speed
T2: temple, leather, cleric pray
T3 deploy red helm, qc breastplate, fd divine protection on helm, cleric pray
T4: deploy sentry, ballista, ring?, cleric pray
T5: guantlets, sword, fd enchant on mage

This is the idea, so far
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Re: For Honor
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2017, 02:57:23 PM »
Some notes
No wands? Would be really helpful in extending your spells.
Very few flying counters: would recommend gray angel. Very versatile and if they try to kill it, it can give you 6 dice of healing!
I think 1 radiant and 1 harshforge: gives you versatility.
Pretty solid deck all around!
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Re: For Honor
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2017, 04:49:26 PM »
Yep, no wands.  I thought of throwing a mage wand in but nah. I had 2 teleports but cut 1. Sbps for what i want just are not there.

I like the angel idea. Mostly because he is holding a sword in the artwork so it feels thematic :b
The defender might go though.

And the harshforge plate is solid with the paladin, especially with armor watd and the gauntlets. But the option to be on guard to counterstrike outweighs this for me. In this book anyways
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Re: For Honor
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2017, 12:11:14 PM »
Looking at the enchantments and equipment.

Count out the actions it would take to get your optimal enchant and equipment on.

As a paladin you really do want all of your equipment on.

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Re: For Honor
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2017, 02:26:48 PM »
After some testing and some tinkering, I've come up with this build.  I thought I would try to make use of the construction yard since I'm planning on casting battleforge, ballista, and garrison post anyways.  I added a wall of pikes and another force push for the heck of it.  Eagle wings got cut for a griffin.

This ideally would run:
T1 (19): monk (-4), construction yard (-7)
T2 (17): monk prays (+1), forge (-7), nullify (-2)
T3 (18): deploy pants (-1), monk prays (+1), cast ballista (-7)
T4 (20): deploy gauntlets (-1), monk prays (+1), cast garrison post (-3), cast brogan (-15) or knight of westlock (-13)

From there just keep casting creatures and put them in the garrison post zone or my zone. And gear up through the forge.
[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]For Honor[/spellbookname]
[mage]A Paladin Spellbook[/mage]
[mage]built by the OCTGN SBB[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSA01]2 x Luminous Blast[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWW01]2 x Wall of Pikes[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWJ04]1 x Garrison Post[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSJ06]1 x Pillar of Righteous Flame[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSJ05]1 x Malakai's Basilica[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSJ02]2 x Consecrated Ground[/mwcard]
[mwcard=LG01J02]2 x Ballista[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J04]1 x Battle Forge[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSJ03]1 x Crusade Banner[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFJ05]1 x Construction Yard[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1C22]2 x Knight of Westlock[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1C06]1 x Brogan Bloodstone[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSC20]2 x Noble Vanguard[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSC14]1 x Knight of the Red Helm[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWAPRC10]1 x White Cloak Knight[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSC10]1 x Dorseus, Stallion of Westlock[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWAPRC07]1 x Meditating Monk[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSC06]1 x Crusader Griffin[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE02]1 x Akiro's Favor[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE04]1 x Brace Yourself[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E33]1 x Retaliate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=LG01E03]1 x Critical Strike[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKE01]1 x Armor Ward[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E01]1 x Bear Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01E04]2 x Divine Reversal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E12]1 x Divine Protection[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKE03]1 x Healing Charm[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE03]1 x Chant of Rage[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE09]1 x Life Link[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE06]1 x Healing Madrigal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE05]2 x Eye for an Eye[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE08]2 x Knight's Courage[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE11]1 x Song of Love[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E29]1 x Nullify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E32]1 x Regrowth[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSQ11]1 x Signet of the Dawnbreaker[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q27]1 x Dawnbreaker Ring[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ06]1 x Paladin's Cloak[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ07]2 x Radiant Breastplate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ02]1 x Dawn's Bastion[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ13]1 x Sword of Radiance[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ06]1 x Morning Star[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ01]2 x Champion's Gauntlets[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01Q04]1 x Leather Chausses[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ04]1 x Reflex Boots[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1I02]2 x Battle Fury[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI06]1 x Overextend[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I12]2 x Force Push[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI12]2 x Minor Heal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI04]2 x Martyr's Restoration[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWAPRI05]1 x Remove Curse[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I20]2 x Purify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI03]1 x Lesser Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I28]1 x Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI02]1 x Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFI03]1 x Disarm[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI01]2 x Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI07]1 x Smite[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I24]1 x Seeking Dispel[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]

It's a slow build up but the mid to long game economy is there.  If one ballista is destroyed, I get 2 mana on the yard and use it to cast another ballista.  This is still and experimental work in progress, but fun to play with. And since i have const. yard a second forge might not be a bad idea? And cassiel is still on my radar but still havent seen much use to add her yet. But i still will probably end up putting her in here because...cassiel. seems too good to not have lol
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Re: For Honor
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2017, 06:35:17 AM »
Interesting idea to try to work Construction Yard into a Paladin book.

I'd like to see this succeed but as the book currently stands I don't think there's enough "work" to do for the Construction Yard to be a real bonus. A Mana Crystal might still be the better option.

The Yard can help bring out the Forge and Ballista, just like a Crystal, but could be "out of work" for quite some time after that whereas the Crystal keeps giving mana every round.

Garrison Post is not really that useful without a War Mage Spawnpoint ( Barracks ) imo and it loses its ability to generate mana when used by a Paladin and the Wall of Pikes is situational use only.

To make the Yard really work for the Paladin I think you'd have to go with a War Conjuration heavy book.
Not sure if that's doable though but I'll leave that up to you :)
Consider : Altar of Carnage / Iron Guard - Archer's Watchtower - Armory - Mangler Caltrops.
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Re: For Honor
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2017, 08:09:09 AM »
I agree in that making it as efficient as possible i would need more war conjurations.  And im straying away from the temple of asyra and the banner is a 1 time use. So casting creatures would be something to do anyways. My thinking for garrison post is to 1) work with the yard and to 2) throw in an enemies zone to take up space on their side.

Altar of the iron guard and carnage are good ideas! I'll have to play with them and see how it goes.

This is still a wip but maybe these ideas will be beneficial!
Thanks for the input :)

*edit* altar of carnage seems like too much of a mana investment unless i add a bunch of war conjurations. But i could combo it with cassiel amd altar of the iron guard would be nice for the vanguards and a guardian angel.  Food for thought
Also armory would be 6 sbp but it could be useful regardless
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Re: For Honor
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2017, 03:09:17 PM »
So after talking with others and doing some thinking, this is the newest iteration of the For Honor book - less knight themed than i originally wanted, but i'm trying the construction yard so i can get over less knights.

1st 3 turns look something like this:

T1 (19) mana - yard and amulet (-10)
T2 (19) mana - battleforge and nullify? (-9)
T3 (19) mana - deploy pants, altar of the iron guard and knight of westlock or angel (-16 or 17)

OR

T1 (19) mana - yard and amulet (-10)
T2 (19) mana - ballista and vanguard (-16)

I was going to playtest this book when I got home from work but I had to work late so hopefully tomorrow.
The overall idea, now, is to have the altar of carnage out when the amulet runs out so that it can fuel the yard, the battleforge, or cassiel.

Still a work in progress and I must say this is a very fun book to work with.  Seems hard to balance the opening but fun, nonetheless

[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]For Honor[/spellbookname]
[mage]A Paladin Spellbook[/mage]
[mage]built by the OCTGN SBB[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSA01]2 x Luminous Blast[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSJ03]1 x Crusade Banner[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSJ06]1 x Pillar of Righteous Flame[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSJ02]1 x Consecrated Ground[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSJ05]1 x Malakai's Basilica[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFJ05]1 x Construction Yard[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWW01]1 x Wall of Pikes[/mwcard]
[mwcard=LG01J02]2 x Ballista[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J04]2 x Battle Forge[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFJ02]1 x Altar of Carnage[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWBG1J01]1 x Altar of the Iron Guard[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1C22]2 x Knight of Westlock[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1C06]1 x Brogan Bloodstone[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSC06]1 x Crusader Griffin[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSC04]1 x Cassiel, Shield of Bim-Shalla[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC06]1 x Guardian Angel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSC20]1 x Noble Vanguard[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSC10]1 x Dorseus, Stallion of Westlock[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE02]1 x Akiro's Favor[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE04]1 x Brace Yourself[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E33]1 x Retaliate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=LG01E03]1 x Critical Strike[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKE01]1 x Armor Ward[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E01]1 x Bear Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01E04]2 x Divine Reversal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E12]1 x Divine Protection[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKE03]1 x Healing Charm[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE03]1 x Chant of Rage[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE09]1 x Life Link[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE05]2 x Eye for an Eye[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE08]1 x Knight's Courage[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E29]2 x Nullify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E32]1 x Regrowth[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWA01Q09]1 x Wispwillow Amulet[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ11]1 x Signet of the Dawnbreaker[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q27]1 x Dawnbreaker Ring[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ06]1 x Paladin's Cloak[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ07]2 x Radiant Breastplate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ13]1 x Sword of Radiance[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ06]1 x Morning Star[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ01]2 x Champion's Gauntlets[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01Q04]1 x Leather Chausses[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ04]1 x Reflex Boots[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1I02]2 x Battle Fury[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI06]1 x Overextend[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I12]1 x Force Push[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I14]1 x Heal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI12]2 x Minor Heal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI05]1 x Mending Wave[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI04]2 x Martyr's Restoration[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWAPRI05]1 x Remove Curse[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I20]2 x Purify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI02]1 x Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I24]1 x Seeking Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I28]1 x Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI03]1 x Lesser Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFI03]1 x Disarm[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI01]2 x Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSI07]1 x Smite[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]

Another idea bouncing around in my head is to utilize the war lvl 2 training and use slingers on the back lines while my mage and 2 or 3 big guys melee the front lines.  I debated royal archer over slinger, only because I could deploy from the banner but I still cannot justify the royal archer for 12 mana atm :/ I will try it in an upcoming iteration, though just to make sure :)
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